Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: uk.telecom Subject: Re: BT Digital Voice with no router Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 20:13:49 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <82ik937zte.fsf@example.com> References: <381ktk9jo6kkmsu7vorq77ba7h2scskfd8@4ax.com> <10rio1n$3a35r$1@dont-email.me> <1rtibg1.1slarp4hfxrlsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <10t7ebv$2sml1$2@dont-email.me> <10t8hp7$37vja$1@dont-email.me> <1rul1zp.14rrgxn1p0lxc6N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <824ikn9o74.fsf@example.com> <10tai0s$3hrpu$1@dont-email.me> <10taqn6$3r31f$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="147748"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WDu9PKEB/IHgNJN0jXnlD5BYxS8= sha1:mtawme38eNB96QnN2RZKIpCXyQU= X-User-ID: eJwFwQEBwDAIAzBLo9ACdmCffwlP6DJthqjg4zsn0bgXMVAtmrN20uWw7vqcCJirrJIY/PKGDx4= Xref: csiph.com uk.telecom:39471 Nick Finnigan writes: > On 04/05/2026 19:26, Chris Green wrote: >> Nick Finnigan wrote: >>> On 04/05/2026 16:41, Richmond wrote: >>>> >>>> Has anyone calculated how much it costs to run a mobile phone? Claude >>>> estimates £250-£450 per annum. So if mobile is the backup plan you have >>>> to add that on to VOIP. And you have to add on the cost of fibre too. >>> >>> 20p a year if you don't use it, £40 a year if you only talk to other >>> giffgaff users, £72 for unlimited calls and SMS, (if no mobile data). >>> >> However if your mobile phone cost £500 (which isn't outlandish) that >> takes 2500 years that the handset would have to survive. >> > > £500 for an alternative to a house phone is outlandish. If the alternative to the housephone is doing wifi calling, then it isn't the alternative to the landline, it is the fibre broadband which is the alternative to the landline.