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Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2024-04-27 10:57 -0700
Last post2024-09-06 18:05 +0000
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  Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-27 10:57 -0700
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 14:50 -0500
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 13:25 -0700
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-04-28 09:01 +1000
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-28 21:38 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 05:09 -0500
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-29 08:47 -0700
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:46 -0600
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> - 2024-04-29 12:51 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 05:55 -0500
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 07:49 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-04-30 13:26 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 20:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 18:09 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 22:41 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 13:58 +1000
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 17:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 16:10 +1000
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 05:35 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-03 09:28 +1000
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 00:04 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:11 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:08 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:18 +1000
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-05 12:51 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-03 23:07 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-04-30 13:26 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 20:04 -0500
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 19:26 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 11:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 18:00 -0500
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 21:35 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 05:40 -0500
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-02 10:51 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:03 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-03 09:43 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 07:00 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-04 14:15 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-02 09:55 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> - 2024-04-29 19:36 +0200
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-04-30 11:18 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 11:54 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 06:45 -0400
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Professor Love" <jesus@loves.you> - 2024-05-12 14:14 +0000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 14:57 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 12:16 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-06 16:17 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:30 -0600
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 14:37 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-10 18:29 -0600
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 15:02 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 08:53 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 15:23 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 16:02 -0600
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 23:26 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 07:58 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-08-03 09:36 -0600
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 15:01 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 08:53 -0600
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 15:24 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 16:03 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 07:57 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-08-03 09:36 -0600
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 23:23 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 23:28 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 17:26 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:28 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 15:03 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-06 16:17 -0600
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 17:27 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:29 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 15:04 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 08:54 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 15:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:36 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 07:58 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-08-03 09:37 -0600
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-06-13 16:03 -0600
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 15:16 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 23:22 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 23:20 +0000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-05-12 20:47 +0200
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:27 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-13 17:36 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-13 11:10 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-13 19:34 +1000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2024-05-13 03:20 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:45 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2024-05-13 14:14 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 18:39 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-15 09:40 +1000
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-14 21:20 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-14 21:42 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 06:04 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-15 13:15 +0100
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 10:03 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-15 15:06 +0100
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 12:55 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-15 18:27 +0100
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:28 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:08 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:29 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 19:27 -0600
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 00:16 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-16 13:00 -0600
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 19:00 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 10:03 +1000
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:07 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:47 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 00:17 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 14:21 +1000
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 06:11 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-17 19:19 +1000
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 15:05 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 06:10 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-17 18:24 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:50 +0000
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-17 05:17 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:51 +0000
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2024-05-18 17:20 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:14 +1000
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-15 14:54 +1000
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-15 18:02 +1000
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-15 09:48 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 06:03 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 06:01 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:12 +1000
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 11:30 +1000
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2024-05-14 01:44 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-13 21:06 +1000
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2024-05-13 12:55 +0000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2024-05-25 09:08 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Jospeh Lőrincz Ujvári <erz@phoocqhr.hu> - 2024-05-25 15:11 +0000
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-29 13:58 -0400
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 11:59 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 01:13 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 18:18 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 06:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 21:43 +1000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 08:21 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 22:57 +1000
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 10:25 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 01:01 +1000
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 15:08 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. cld <clowd@nimbus.net.inv> - 2024-05-01 20:43 +0100
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-01 16:14 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:36 +1000
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 20:11 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:02 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-02 09:21 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 14:44 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-05 10:55 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 18:14 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> - 2024-05-07 23:15 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-08 05:47 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> - 2024-05-09 08:45 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 13:16 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:33 +1000
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 04:00 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 06:34 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 10:30 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 15:44 +1000
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:38 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-10 10:26 +0100
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 06:37 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 10:32 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:01 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-03 22:37 +1000
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 09:56 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:25 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:03 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-04 20:19 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 06:26 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-05-04 21:26 +1000
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 21:23 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 08:41 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 09:06 +1000
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 09:47 +1000
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 00:00 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 14:30 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 20:14 +1000
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 23:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 14:42 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 02:11 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-04 21:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 02:18 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 18:46 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 04:57 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. cld <clowd@nimbus.net.inv> - 2024-05-02 21:50 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 17:47 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-05 11:14 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 18:18 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 10:11 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:37 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 13:57 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 12:00 +1000
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:34 +1000
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:11 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-03 22:42 +1000
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 09:59 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-03 09:19 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 15:08 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 08:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 12:05 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 12:41 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 00:00 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 22:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 06:58 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-07 23:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-08 05:59 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 20:42 +1000
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-08 21:12 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 06:03 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-09 23:50 +1000
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 10:07 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:08 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:05 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 15:51 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:46 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:37 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:19 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-10 21:38 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:48 +1000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 09:57 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:21 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 10:01 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 11:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 14:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 21:07 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:49 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:31 +1000
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:52 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:29 +0000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:21 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:30 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-14 18:37 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 06:38 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 05:59 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-15 21:39 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 10:00 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 19:29 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:09 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:25 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:24 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:22 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 14:25 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 18:58 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-18 05:03 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-19 08:33 +1000
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-19 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-28 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-29 07:15 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-28 22:09 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 08:45 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:03 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:26 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:30 -0700
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:54 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:43 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:25 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 14:28 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 19:42 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 11:56 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:37 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 20:35 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-13 09:51 +0100
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:42 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 10:34 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 13:37 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 15:17 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2024-05-14 21:45 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 11:28 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 20:08 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 13:23 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 23:01 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. spaminator <spami@na.tur> - 2024-05-10 23:06 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 19:34 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 07:13 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 22:09 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:33 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 09:51 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:50 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 18:47 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 09:01 +1000
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 09:44 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 10:10 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:52 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:30 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:53 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 14:56 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 05:18 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 19:47 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:12 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:13 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:34 +1000
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 08:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 13:23 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 10:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 15:44 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 14:23 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 19:00 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 00:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:53 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 10:41 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:28 +1000
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:06 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 23:20 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:21 +1000
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:09 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 12:47 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0200
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 21:32 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 11:15 +0200
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 19:39 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 06:24 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 21:50 +1000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 08:23 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 23:01 +1000
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 10:30 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:40 +1000
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-05-02 13:12 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 12:21 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Ref <ref@creon.earth> - 2024-04-30 13:27 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:29 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:26 +1000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 18:42 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:51 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:28 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 20:52 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 15:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:22 +1000
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:43 +0200
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:59 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 19:13 -0700
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-01 05:26 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 19:38 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 21:42 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:16 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-06 10:46 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:44 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 20:10 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 09:14 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-07 10:23 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 10:57 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:48 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 14:20 -0700
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        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 13:55 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 11:43 +0200
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:35 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:47 +0200
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:18 -0400
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    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Ren <privatemail@protonmail.com> - 2024-05-25 18:28 +0000
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-27 12:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-28 03:50 -0400
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-28 10:13 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-28 19:17 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-28 22:11 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-29 11:32 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-28 22:06 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-29 19:01 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-29 09:44 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-29 10:11 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-29 15:35 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-29 13:21 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-05-29 13:23 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-29 18:33 -0400
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                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-29 18:32 -0400
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                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-30 00:17 -0400
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                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-30 17:14 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-30 12:21 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-30 17:15 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-30 22:16 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-31 09:42 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-31 12:11 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-31 16:37 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-08 12:11 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:13 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-09 17:23 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-11 00:04 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-11 06:10 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-11 11:22 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-12 05:15 -0400
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                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-13 08:46 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-13 11:15 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mitch Sardelis Hang <siml@ssts.gr> - 2024-06-13 18:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-13 08:45 -0400
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                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2024-06-16 11:02 +0100
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-16 06:25 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-16 06:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-21 09:46 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-22 05:37 -0400
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                                                                    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-22 18:13 -0400
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                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-23 01:18 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-23 11:51 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-23 19:43 -0400
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                                                                      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-22 22:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-23 01:19 -0400
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                                                              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-06-22 05:39 -0400
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#888015

FromIn the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com>
Date2024-06-12 19:43 +1000
Message-ID<v4bqki$1j6kk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#888014
On 12/06/2024 7:20 pm, Attila wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>
>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>> creating itself.
>>>
>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>
>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>> there is no God!"
>>>
>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>
>> Who says?
> 
> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
> exist.

That sounds to me like you are saying nothing.





In the Name of Jesus

-- 
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the 
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of 
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. 
  What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so 
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth 
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him!  If God 
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the 
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, 
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being 
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to 
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is 
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. 
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, 
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is 
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any 
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you 
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your 
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

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#888038

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2024-06-12 17:50 -0400
Message-ID<mp5k6j1m01412acojjsvi1023uh6nfprs6@4ax.com>
In reply to#888015
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:43:45 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
message-id <v4bqki$1j6kk$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 12/06/2024 7:20 pm, Attila wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>
>>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>>> creating itself.
>>>>
>>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>>
>>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>>> there is no God!"
>>>>
>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>>
>>> Who says?
>> 
>> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>> exist.
>
>That sounds to me like you are saying nothing.

I am sure it does.

-- 

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and 
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including 
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, 
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler, 
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker.  They 
have stepped over the line and are working against 
the country and what it stands for. 

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE.  Go broke. 
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights?  Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.  
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it.  All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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#888016

FromMaximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome>
Date2024-06-12 20:00 +1000
Message-ID<lct9udFm9b0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#888014
Attila wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>> creating itself.
>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>> discussion.
>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>
>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>
>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>> there is no God!"
>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>> Who says?
> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
> exist.
>

some negatives can be proven. I could prove there's no gorilla in my car.

-- 
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation'."

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#888018

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-06-12 14:27 +0200
Message-ID<f27fd3fd-06db-6911-cf1a-318149e1e65a@example.net>
In reply to#888016

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024, Maximus wrote:

> Attila wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a 
>>>>>>>>> god!"
>>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>>> creating itself.
>>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>>> there is no God!"
>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>> Who says?
>> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>> exist.
>> 
>
> some negatives can be proven. I could prove there's no gorilla in my car.

Not strictly conclusively. You could be mistaken, one could have snuck in 
there when you were not watching, one could in fact be there _right now_.

I'd say that you would make a stronger claim by saying that you can 
logically prove a negative such as for instance, there is no gorilla of 
specified size in your microwave due to the laws of physics. But that is 
not scientific proof, just a tautology that follows from the premises.

But once the gorilla is seen, and documented, it is proven to at least 
have existed forever.

Ok, ok, for the philosophical fans out there, you could always argue 
eternal and supreme doubt, but that leads nowhere which is why it is not 
taken seriously in academic circles.

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#888021

FromMaximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome>
Date2024-06-13 00:55 +1000
Message-ID<lctr6nFoq8bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#888018
D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
>> Attila wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich! That proves there 
>>>>>>>>>> is a god!"
>>>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, 
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>>>> creating itself.
>>>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That 
>>>>>> proves
>>>>>> there is no God!"
>>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>>> Who says?
>>> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
>>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>>> exist.
>>>
>>
>> some negatives can be proven. I could prove there's no gorilla in my 
>> car.
>
> Not strictly conclusively. 

at any particular point in time is/was implied

> You could be mistaken, one could have snuck in there when you were not 
> watching, one could in fact be there _right now_.
>
> I'd say that you would make a stronger claim by saying that you can 
> logically prove a negative such as for instance, there is no gorilla 
> of specified size in your microwave due to the laws of physics. But 
> that is not scientific proof, just a tautology that follows from the 
> premises.
>
> But once the gorilla is seen, and documented, it is proven to at least 
> have existed forever.
>
> Ok, ok, for the philosophical fans out there, you could always argue 
> eternal and supreme doubt, but that leads nowhere which is why it is 
> not taken seriously in academic circles.


-- 
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation'."

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#888022

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-06-12 19:11 +0200
Message-ID<fef9a450-def6-2fb0-ae98-a2aef4d0f914@example.net>
In reply to#888021

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On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, Maximus wrote:

>>>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>>>> Who says?
>>>> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
>>>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>>>> exist.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> some negatives can be proven. I could prove there's no gorilla in my car.
>> 
>> Not strictly conclusively. 
>
> at any particular point in time is/was implied

And a certain design of the car as well so that you have full view of it. 
Probably, for strictness sake, a few extra observers as well. But that 
is not a proof, it is an observation. ;)

Difference Between Proof and Observation:

Proof: Proof is a conclusive demonstration that establishes the truth of a 
statement or proposition beyond any doubt. It involves a logical and 
rigorous argument or series of steps that lead to the verification of a 
claim. In mathematics, for example, a proof is a formal explanation that 
shows why a theorem or statement is true based on axioms, definitions, and 
previously proven results.

Observation: An observation, on the other hand, is a statement or fact 
that can be readily perceived or noticed without the need for an elaborate 
or detailed explanation. Observations are typically evident through simple 
inspection or direct experience. In mathematical contexts, an observation 
may refer to a statement whose truth is immediately apparent based on 
basic principles or common knowledge.

Key Differences:

     Conclusiveness: Proof is conclusive and leaves no room for doubt 
regarding the truth of a statement, while an observation may be more 
intuitive and apparent but lacks the formal rigor of a proof.

     Complexity: Proofs often involve intricate logical reasoning and 
structured arguments, whereas observations are usually straightforward and 
easily discernible.

     Formality: Proofs follow specific rules of logic and deduction to 
establish validity, while observations may rely more on intuition or 
common sense.

In summary, while both proofs and observations contribute to understanding 
in various fields such as mathematics, science, and law, they differ in 
terms of their level of conclusiveness, complexity, and formality.

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#888037

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2024-06-12 17:49 -0400
Message-ID<8r5k6j9fcp9h4gs3erifpnqn1b57ls83g8@4ax.com>
In reply to#888016
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:00:42 +1000, Maximus
<gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id
<lct9udFm9b0U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Attila wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere.  Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not.  What are the conditions for obtaining one?  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A pile of poop!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A rock!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A bug!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick.  For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>> So you say.  I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look!  A ham sandwich!  That proves there is a god!"
>>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>>> creating itself.
>>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary.  They
>>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>> That is what I mean.  That attitude allows no further
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>>> that conclusion?  Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>>> there is no God!"
>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>> Who says?
>> Anyone.  All possible sources must be investigated to
>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>> exist.
>>
>
>some negatives can be proven. I could prove there's no gorilla in my car.

You mean there was not one when you looked.  There may be
one now.  Or do you spend 24/7 watching for gorillas in your
car?



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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and 
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including 
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, 
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler, 
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker.  They 
have stepped over the line and are working against 
the country and what it stands for. 

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE.  Go broke. 
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights?  Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.  
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it.  All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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#887831

Fromcld <clowd@nimbus.net.inv>
Date2024-05-30 20:27 +0100
Message-ID<0n-dnZrDKP2jTsX7nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#887805
The Starmaker wrote:
> Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 09:44:34 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <66575B72.7656@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maximus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Maximus wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:57:02 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>>> So, since Atheism is a belief, and it's not a science...
>>>>>> who is claiming atheism is a science?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most books on atheism are written by scientists and the 'scientific community', not christians.
>>>>
>>>> if so that doesn't mean atheism is a science
>>>
>>>
>>> People who write books mostly write about ..what they know.
>>>
>>> Since most atheism books are writteb by the 'scientific community', it
>>> is they who claiming
>>> atheism is a science (even if they don't believe it themslves).
>>>
>>> I already explained this, Atheism books is not about atheism...it's
>>> about How To Murder God.
>>
>> I was not aware there is a law against killing a god.  Any
>> god..
> 
> 
> 
> There are laws that are called Laws of Nature, that are not written in
> books...
> 
> and God does not allow anyone to get away with...Murder...especially
> His.
> 
> 
> God will get you for dat.

-------------------------

"but here in this bank and shoal of time,
... we still have judgement here;
that we but teach bloody instructions,
which being taught, return to plague th'inventor:
Macbeth, 1.vii.6
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#889245

Fromclzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
Date2024-09-06 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<ef727beb5247aae34a9e67a21d146d2d@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#886961
Not if you properly define it:
Atheism is withholding belief in a soul that survives death until
sufficient evidence exists.
It is not the belief that souls don't exist.

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