Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein

From	Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject	Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein
Date	2025-04-21 17:58 -0500
Organization	Modern Human
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On 4/21/25 2:52 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 4/21/2025 9:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/21/25 2:11 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2025 9:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we 
>>>>>>> observe is not
>>>>>>>  >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of 
>>>>>>> questioning."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's
>>>>>>> a text information. It submits our
>>>>>>> rules of text processing, nature
>>>>>>> "in itself"  has nothing to do with
>>>>>>> it and never had.
>>>>>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how
>>>>>>> our observation should look like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture
>>>>> human mind able to interprete it it's either
>>>>> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream
>>>>> of meaningless characters, Bozo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo.
>>>
>>> But a text isn't that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Anything that is, is nature in itself, Bozo.
> 
> No, Bozo.
> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/nature
> 
> 
> 
> 


There is a difference between the English language and physics, Bozo.

Go back to the Kibbutz you came from and spade up the weeds. You're made 
for that.

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    Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:01 -0500
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    Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-04-21 06:32 -0700
      Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 16:36 +0200
        Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:13 -0500
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      Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 20:25 +0200
        Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 14:03 -0500
          Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 21:11 +0200
            Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 14:34 -0500
              Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 21:52 +0200
                Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 17:58 -0500
                Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-22 06:38 +0200

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