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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math |
| Subject | Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein |
| Date | 2025-04-20 14:12 -0500 |
| Organization | Modern Human |
| Message-ID | <vu3gvb$9leb$2@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <68049149.3982@ix.netcom.com> <1rb3qin.q8hf354phnshN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
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On 4/20/25 1:28 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote: > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> "Theory determines what we observe." --Albert Einstein >> >> >> "Physics and Reality" (1936) ˆ an essay published in the Journal of the >> Franklin Institute. >> In it, Einstein says: >> "Whether you can observe a thing or not depends on the theory which you >> use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed." >> >> >> >> >> Now, let me explain what are one of the things that could mean... > > [snip misunderstandings] > > It is a reply to Heisenberg. > ==== > Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we observe is not > nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning." > === > > With quantum mechanics the supposedly straightforward relation > between experiment and 'reality' has been lost. > > > Jan > That's loose talk from begin to end. Either you don't know how to carefully extract Heisenberg's note from the context, or your Heisenberg himself was making loose nonsense talk. The nature "exposed to our method of questioning" is also "nature in itself" of course!.. Does it need a Physfit's dick to clarify it? Silly woman!
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Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 14:12 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-21 03:30 +0000
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:01 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-22 04:17 +0000
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-22 04:43 +0000
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 08:29 +0200
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-04-21 06:32 -0700
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 16:36 +0200
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:13 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:05 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 20:25 +0200
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 14:03 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 21:11 +0200
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 14:34 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-21 21:52 +0200
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 17:58 -0500
Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-22 06:38 +0200
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