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Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?

From Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?
Date 2025-04-14 00:48 -0500
Organization Modern Human
Message-ID <vti7ir$1b95$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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On 4/13/25 11:53 PM, Bertitaylor wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 4:27:33 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
>> On 4/13/25 11:08 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/13/25 10:49 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/25 10:04 PM, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:40:25 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Better yet contract kala-azar and
>>>>>> just die :) I want my space in my fridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> My great uncle found the cure for that disease, saved many millions of
>>>>> lives.
>>>>> A great inspiration for me, Roachie.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pure bullshit. The name of the discoverers of the parasite is still
>>>> part of its scientific name (Leishmania donovani). I read a book in
>>>> the 1990s about the discovery also; a detailed account of the
>>>> unbelievable struggle that led to its discovery, and yes, millions
>>>> were saved after that.
>>>>
>>>> One was British, the other Irish. Years apart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The hardest part, according to that book, was to find the life cycle of
>>> the parasite. The mechanism of transmission. It was like starting from
>>> having absolutely no clue, and by funky tries, trying to zero in on it.
>>> It took a long long time and many many mistakes and misconceptions and
>>> misinterpretation of data to at last land on what was the real culprit.
>>> That little fly, a form of sand fly. The parasite would clog up its
>>> needle-like mouth, and then when eating someone else's blood would
>>> transmit some of the parasites into the new patient. And this repeated
>>> on all other humans that the fly fed on. They generally all died not
>>> that long after. Hundreds of thousands of them at a time.
>>>
>>> Perhaps your "great uncle" cleaned the floor of the center that one of
>>> these researchers was working it, who knows :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Oh Ok I see. You were talking about a cure, not the discoveries
>> involved. Yes some Indian found a way to cure the patients. But what
>> stopped kala-azar from killing people in large masses was the discovery
>> of how it works and therefore preventing the growth and spread of that
>> fly.
> 
> What saved millions of lives was the medicine the patients got.
> 
> That flies and mosquitoes caused trouble was very well known. What was
> not around was the cure. Dr Brahmachari researched and found the cure.
> Just as the cure for malaria was found. With British help he made a
> factory to produce the medicine and sell it cheaply so that the disease
> got eradicated. A great and most worthy example, for Arindam.
> 
> The desire to suppress genuine Vedic talent by the descendants of the
> thrashed and humiliated Alexander is overwhelming. Seems to have
> increased these days, what with Amazon stealing Arindam's IP, and his
> global persecution.
> 
> Things were far better during the Raj. Dr Brahmachari was knighted for
> his wonderful work ridding the world of this disease.
> 
> Pathetic, too.
> Shit!
> 
> Woof woof
> 
> Bertietaylor
> 
> -- 


Bullshit. Almost 100% of people who died of it could not afford the 
medication, and the medication was not 100% effective either. The real 
deal was preventing the spread of the flies. Just like malaria.

Half-ass "cure" for malaria is at hand too, yet millions of babies 
today, each year, die of it because they don't control the standing 
waters around them effectively enough.

Kala-azar didn't disappear but went way down the list of highly 
devastating epidemic diseases because of similar actions in preventing 
the creation and spread of that particular fly.





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