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Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.

From Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.atheism
Subject Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
Date 2024-05-06 10:46 +1000
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Attila wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 19:13:21 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <6631A541.5B91@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> An atheist is a ...very religious nonbeliever.
> I take issue with that.  I have nothing to do with any part
> of any religion.
>
> A statement that something does not exist would require
> evidence of a negative, which is almost impossible to
> provide.
>
> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
> existence of any god.

ah, so you admit there is evidence, which there is, as we've discussed. 
saying no 'valid' evidence IYO is fine.

>    My default position is that as a
> result no god exists.  Since this is a binary issue to take
> the default position that a god does exist would require I
> also take the position that vampires, dragons, elves,
> werewolves, shape changers, super heroes, and all sorts of
> other mythical characters must also exist.
>

I don't follow your reasoning. each proposition can be considered 
independently. I don't see why if someone doesn't believe in God, they 
also have to not believe in werewolves or vampires. surely 
anything/everything should be considered on it's merits. ie. what 
evidence is there and the likelihood of it supporting reality. plus the 
fact of individual freedom to believe. someone can not believe in 
something, however strong the evidence for it is, and still believe in 
something ridiculous.

> --
>
>


-- 
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 00:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 22:02 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 06:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-07 23:52 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-08 05:59 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 20:42 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-08 21:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 06:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-09 23:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 10:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:08 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:05 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 15:51 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:46 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:37 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-10 21:38 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:48 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 09:57 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 10:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 11:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 14:32 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 21:07 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:49 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:31 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:17 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:52 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:29 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-14 18:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 06:38 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 05:59 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-15 21:39 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 10:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 19:29 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:09 -0600
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:25 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:24 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:22 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 14:25 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 19:17 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 18:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:54 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-18 05:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-19 08:33 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-19 01:01 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 08:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:03 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:26 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:30 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:54 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:43 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:25 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 14:28 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 19:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 11:56 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 20:35 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-13 09:51 +0100
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 10:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 13:37 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 15:17 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2024-05-14 21:45 +0100
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 11:28 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 20:08 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 13:23 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 23:01 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:21 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. spaminator <spami@na.tur> - 2024-05-10 23:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 19:34 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 07:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 22:09 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:20 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:33 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 09:51 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 18:47 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 09:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 09:44 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 10:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:52 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:53 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 14:56 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 05:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 19:47 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:34 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 08:29 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 13:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 10:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 15:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 14:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 19:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 00:26 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:53 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 10:41 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:28 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 23:20 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:21 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:09 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 12:47 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 21:32 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 11:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 19:39 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 06:24 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 21:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 08:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 23:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 10:30 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:40 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-05-02 13:12 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 12:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Ref <ref@creon.earth> - 2024-04-30 13:27 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:29 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:26 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 18:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:51 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:28 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 20:52 +0200
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 15:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:22 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:43 +0200
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:52 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:59 -0700
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 19:13 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-01 05:26 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 19:38 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 21:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:16 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-06 10:46 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 20:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 09:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-07 10:23 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 10:57 -0700
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 14:20 -0700
        (belief) Greeting "The Starmaker" (aka TS) on 04/30/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:18 -0400
          (belief) Expertly: How to be perfect (Matt 5:48) as GOD is perfect; Start by greeting (Matt 5:47) others ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:19 -0400
          (belief) fyi: "The Starmaker" (aka TS) is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/30/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:35 -0400
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 13:55 +1000
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 11:43 +0200
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:35 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:47 +0200
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:18 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:47 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:06 +0200
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-03 07:57 +1000
  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 16:02 +0000
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:54 -0700
      (faith) Greeting Ross Finlayson on 04/29/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:01 -0400
        (faith) Expertly: How to be perfect (Matt 5:48) as GOD is perfect; Start by greeting (Matt 5:47) others ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:03 -0400
        (faith) fyi: Ross Finlayson is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/29/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:28 -0400
          Re: (faith) fyi: Ross Finlayson is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/29/24 ... Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-02 10:45 +1000
  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Ren <privatemail@protonmail.com> - 2024-05-25 18:28 +0000

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