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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. |
| Date | 2024-05-04 12:47 +0200 |
| Organization | i2pn2 (i2pn.org) |
| Message-ID | <e4d1cb4b-0b07-6193-1dad-932b901f3592@example.net> (permalink) |
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On Fri, 3 May 2024, Maximus wrote: > Attila wrote: >> On Thu, 2 May 2024 10:34:33 +1000, Maximus >> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <l9g5cuFglehU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >> >>> Attila wrote: >>>> On Wed, 1 May 2024 01:01:01 +1000, Maximus >>>> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>> <l9cfdfFu7b8U1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Attila wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 22:57:53 +1000, Maximus >>>>>> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>> <l9c86kFt574U1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Attila wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 21:43:47 +1000, Maximus >>>>>>>> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>> <l9c3rjFsglgU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 18:18:28 +1000, Maximus >>>>>>>>>> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>> <l9bnqmFqncgU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:59:25 +1000, Maximus >>>>>>>>>>>> <gladiator@colosseum.rome> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>> <l9b1k0FniudU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <662F2428.72E6@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of ...beliefs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confident that there is a God. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Theists postulate the existence of something >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any supporting evidence for that existence. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I disagree. billions of believers and personal testimony is >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>> Personal testimony is never evidence >>>>>>>>>>> any court would disagree with you >>>>>>>>>> It is well known that personal testimony is the poorest kind >>>>>>>>>> of evidence. >>>>>>>>> maybe, but still evidence. and it's relative to numbers. if twenty >>>>>>>>> pp >>>>>>>>> say they saw me run down a pedestrian in my car, that carries more >>>>>>>>> weight than if just one person says it. >>>>>>>> I agree - it is evidence. It just isn't very useful >>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The value of eyewitnesses: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNF9QNEQLA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg6qcgoay4 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnnmWYI0lM >>>>>>>>> I'm not going to watch all those, sorry. (see comment below) >>>>>>>> Any one will do. They all show what you see may not be >>>>>>>> reality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> since there is no way >>>>>>>>>>>> to support it. >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as the "belief of billions" is >>>>>>>>>>>> concerned there are hundreds of different beliefs in there >>>>>>>>>>>> and they can't all be correct. >>>>>>>>>>> I was referring to Xtianity and Islam primarily >>>>>>>>>> How about Hindu? >>>>>>>>> about 1.2 billion. but Christians and Islamists make up over 50% of >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> religious faiths. >>>>>>>> So what? That doesn't mean any of them are valid. >>>>>>> no, but your point is there's no evidence. I say it's evidence the >>>>>>> beliefs could be valid. >>>>>> Or not. There is no actual evidence that would convince >>>>>> someone either way. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are hundreds of others. In fact >>>>>>>>>> there are many, many different Christian beliefs. >>>>>>>>> yes. I'm just saying it's not as you say that there's no evidence. >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> example believers spend a lot of money in support of their faith. >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> near where I am there's a 7th day Adventist complex worth many >>>>>>>>> millions >>>>>>>>> of dollars. also many intelligent ppl have religious beliefs. in >>>>>>>>> fact >>>>>>>>> theists vastly outnumber us. you can't just dismiss such things as >>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>> no evidence that there may be some validity to their beliefs. >>>>>>>> Or not. There is exactly the same support either way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but at the >>>>>>>>> end of the day, I look at what the beliefs actually are. when one >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> that, it's not so difficult to dismiss them as nonsense. eg. xtians >>>>>>>>> believe they will live in mansions, and walk on streets paved with >>>>>>>>> gold >>>>>>>>> in some god adoring afterlife, and muslims believe they will get 70 >>>>>>>>> virgins if they die as martyrs. >>>>>>>> Most religions have common factors - rewards for believers >>>>>>>> and painful punishment for non-believers. >>>>>>>> Basically there is no actual supporting evidence either way >>>>>>>> for anything involving religion. That is why faith was >>>>>>>> invented. Faith is belief without evidence - for those who >>>>>>>> believe in such. >>>>>>> no, faith is belief without proof >>>>>> Proof - evidence - either way it is the same thing. No >>>>>> facts. >>>>> no. evidence is not proof. evidence is just something that supports a >>>>> conclusion. >>>> True, but usually evidence has some validity factor. >>>> >>>> Just what is evidence is usually left to the judgment of the >>>> parties involved, which makes unsupported evidence useless. >>>> Meaningful evidence is unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable >>>> and credible. >>>> >>> unsupported evidence is not useless. all evidence is evaluated on it's >>> credibility. if there's a murder and I say I saw it happen, but no one >>> else did, that still needs to be investigated. >> True but without corroboration there would be little result. >> >>>>>> A fact is a statement that can be verified. It can be proven >>>>>> to be true or false through objective evidence. No religion >>>>>> has this. >>>>> yes they do. Muhammad is an historical person, as is Jesus >>>> Absolutely correct but there is no unambiguous, unrelated, >>>> verifiable and credible evidence that they were any >>>> different from any John Doe off any street. >>> the impact they had on the world suggests otherwise >> Ra and Osiris had a similar impact on their world. >> >>>> Simply >>>> accepting (or proving) someone with that name existed at a >>>> certain time and place proves nothing. >>>> >>>> There is no independent and unrelated supporting evidence. >>>>>>> . the gospels for example are a basis >>>>>>> for Xtian faith >>>>>> Or for any other religion. None of them have anything >>>>>> beyond faith. Your gospels are accepted as being true >>>>>> without any supporting evidence. >>>>> the gospels are evidence for the events they contain >>>> Your acceptance of them as evidence does nothing to actually >>>> validate them >>> nevertheless they are still evidence for what they contain. your claim >>> is there's no evidence for religious belief, not that there's no proof. >>> just as sporting organizations, clubs, and participants are evidence for >>> their sport, ie. that the sport exists, Churches and Mosques and the >>> believers (billions of them) are evidence for their God. ie. that the >>> God exists, or there wouldn't be any Churches or Mosques. to me this >>> seem obvious. >> Nonsense. Evidence without factual support is about as >> useless as can be imagined. >> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!" >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!" >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!" >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!" >> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is >> needed. >> >>>> Such validation requires unambiguous, >>>> unrelated, verifiable and credible evidence, >>>> >>>>> it's irrelevant >>>>> whether those events are true or not. they are still evidence. but some >>>>> things in the gospels are known to be factual. Bart Ehrman is a (very) >>>>> good authority on this. >>>> Nothing beyond some physical locations and independently >>>> verified historical figures. None of the mystical or >>>> supernatural claims are independently supported. >>> yes >> Therefore belief or non-belief can be as simple as flipping >> a coin. > > of course ppl can believe or not, as with anything, like UFO's, or Bigfoot, > or whatever > >> Except belief under these conditions also requires >> belief in anything including vampires, elves, giants, >> dragons, werewolves, and shape shifters. >> > > that's a stupid argument. belief in some thing doesn't create any obligation > to believe in some other thing. True, but if you want to be consistent, it grants everyone the same right. So I could argue I believe in !X if you believe in X and there would be no way to tell who is right. Thus leading to a reductio ad absurdum and violation of the law of identity. >> -- >> >> > > >
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Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-03 22:37 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 09:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:25 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-04 20:19 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 06:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-05-04 21:26 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 21:23 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 08:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 09:06 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 09:47 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 00:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 14:30 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 20:14 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 23:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 14:42 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 02:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 02:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-05 18:46 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 04:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. cld <clowd@nimbus.net.inv> - 2024-05-02 21:50 +0100
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 17:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-05 11:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-05 18:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 10:11 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 13:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 12:00 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:34 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-03 22:42 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 09:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-03 09:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-03 15:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 08:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 12:05 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 12:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 00:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 22:02 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 06:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-07 23:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-08 05:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 20:42 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-08 21:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 06:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-09 23:50 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 10:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:08 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:05 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 15:51 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:37 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-10 21:38 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:48 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 09:57 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:21 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 10:01 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 11:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 14:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 21:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:31 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:17 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:52 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:29 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:21 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-14 18:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 06:38 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 05:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-15 21:39 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 10:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 19:29 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:09 -0600
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:22 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 14:25 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 19:17 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 18:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:54 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-18 05:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-19 08:33 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-19 01:01 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 08:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:03 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:54 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 14:28 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 19:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 11:56 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 20:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-13 09:51 +0100
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 10:34 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 13:37 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 15:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2024-05-14 21:45 +0100
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 11:28 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 20:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 13:23 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 23:01 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:21 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. spaminator <spami@na.tur> - 2024-05-10 23:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 19:34 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 07:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 22:09 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:20 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:33 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 09:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:50 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 18:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 09:01 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 09:44 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 10:10 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 14:56 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 05:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 19:47 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:34 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 08:29 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 13:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 10:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 15:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 14:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 19:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 00:26 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 10:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:28 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 23:20 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:21 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 12:47 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 21:32 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 11:15 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 19:39 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 06:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 21:50 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 08:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 23:01 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 10:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:40 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-05-02 13:12 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 12:21 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Ref <ref@creon.earth> - 2024-04-30 13:27 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:29 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:26 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 18:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:51 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:28 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 20:52 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 15:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:22 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:43 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:59 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 19:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-01 05:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 19:38 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 21:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-06 10:46 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 20:10 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 09:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-07 10:23 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 10:57 -0700
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:48 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 14:20 -0700
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Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 13:55 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 11:43 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:35 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:47 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:47 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:06 +0200
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-03 07:57 +1000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 16:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:54 -0700
(faith) Greeting Ross Finlayson on 04/29/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:01 -0400
(faith) Expertly: How to be perfect (Matt 5:48) as GOD is perfect; Start by greeting (Matt 5:47) others ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:03 -0400
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Re: (faith) fyi: Ross Finlayson is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/29/24 ... Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-02 10:45 +1000
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