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Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.

From Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.atheism
Subject Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
Date 2024-05-02 10:47 +1000
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D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
>> D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level 
>>>>> of ...beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are 
>>>>> confident that there is a God.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even 
>>>> sure if God exist or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not 
>>>> even sure if God exist or not.
>>>
>>> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is 
>>> agnostic, but many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
>>
>> atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies 
>> that. to my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.
>
> Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in 
> lack of a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not 
> a good one in my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god" 
> then it's your own fault for exciting all the theists. ;)
>
> In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is 
> is some kind of deity.
>
> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>
> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>
> The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and 
> interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a 
> logical contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

good explanation. for me tho it's no big deal how ppl think of atheism 
or define it. it all comes down simply to 'atheists don't believe in God'

-- 
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 00:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-06 22:02 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-07 06:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-07 23:52 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-08 05:59 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-08 20:42 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-08 21:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 06:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-09 23:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 10:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:08 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:05 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 15:51 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:46 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:37 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-10 21:38 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 22:48 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 09:57 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 09:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 10:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 11:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 14:32 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-11 21:07 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:49 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:31 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:17 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:52 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:29 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 16:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-14 18:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 06:38 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 05:59 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-15 21:39 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 10:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 19:29 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:09 -0600
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:25 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:24 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 04:22 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 14:25 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 19:17 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 18:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-16 08:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-16 09:03 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-15 19:26 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:30 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 04:54 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 11:43 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 16:25 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 14:28 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 19:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-13 11:56 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-12 20:35 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-05-13 09:51 +0100
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-13 06:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 10:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 13:37 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 15:17 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2024-05-14 21:45 +0100
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 11:28 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 20:08 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-14 13:23 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-13 23:01 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:21 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. spaminator <spami@na.tur> - 2024-05-10 23:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 19:34 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 07:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-11 22:09 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:20 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:33 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 09:51 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 07:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-11 18:47 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 09:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 09:44 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 10:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:52 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 03:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 00:53 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 14:56 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 05:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-12 19:47 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:04 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-12 06:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-12 20:34 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 08:29 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 13:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 10:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 15:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 14:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-09 19:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 00:26 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 05:53 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-10 10:41 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-10 11:28 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-10 01:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-09 23:20 -0700
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-04 12:21 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-04 05:09 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 12:47 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0200
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 21:32 +1000
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 11:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 19:39 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 06:24 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 21:50 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 08:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-04-30 23:01 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 10:30 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:40 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-05-02 13:12 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 12:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Ref <ref@creon.earth> - 2024-04-30 13:27 +0000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:29 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:26 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 18:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 08:51 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:28 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-30 20:52 +0200
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-04-30 15:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:22 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:43 +0200
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:52 -0700
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 18:59 -0700
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-30 19:13 -0700
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-01 05:26 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 19:38 +1000
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 21:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:16 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-06 10:46 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 05:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 20:10 +1000
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-06 09:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-07 10:23 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 10:57 -0700
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-05-01 14:20 -0700
        (belief) Greeting "The Starmaker" (aka TS) on 04/30/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:18 -0400
          (belief) Expertly: How to be perfect (Matt 5:48) as GOD is perfect; Start by greeting (Matt 5:47) others ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:19 -0400
          (belief) fyi: "The Starmaker" (aka TS) is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/30/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <disciple@T3WiJ.com> - 2024-04-30 22:35 -0400
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-01 13:55 +1000
      Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 11:43 +0200
        Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-01 22:35 +1000
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-01 20:47 +0200
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2024-05-01 14:39 -0600
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2024-05-02 05:18 -0400
            Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> - 2024-05-02 10:47 +1000
              Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:06 +0200
          Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-05-03 07:57 +1000
  Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 16:02 +0000
    Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:54 -0700
      (faith) Greeting Ross Finlayson on 04/29/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:01 -0400
        (faith) Expertly: How to be perfect (Matt 5:48) as GOD is perfect; Start by greeting (Matt 5:47) others ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:03 -0400
        (faith) fyi: Ross Finlayson is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/29/24 ... HeartDoc Andrew <achung@EmoryCardiology.com> - 2024-04-29 16:28 -0400
          Re: (faith) fyi: Ross Finlayson is #StatCOVID19Test **positive** on 04/29/24 ... Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-02 10:45 +1000

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