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From Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject Re: ? ? ?
Date 2024-03-06 08:57 -0500
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On 3/6/2024 3:14 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 06.03.2024 um 08:44 schrieb The Starmaker:

>> [...]
>
> The flow of time is assumed to be constant,
> hence constant frequency processes are
> assumed to exist.

Once there was a rubber sheeting manufacturer with
inconsistent equipment.
Where the sheeting was measured out
to be packaged and sold,
the tension on the tape was never the same.
One day, twice the tension and half as much
sheeting per foot.
The next  day,
half the tension, twice the sheeting.

But the manufacturer used some of the sheeting itself
as a ruler to measure out a package.worth of
rubber sheeting, and kept the ruler at the same tension,
whatever it was, as the sheeting being packaged.

The changing ruler measured the changing sheeting
but the packages going out the door were the same,
because they changed the same.

And they all lived happily ever after.

> The flow of time is assumed to be constant,
> hence constant frequency processes are
> assumed to exist.

I think that a less stringent assumption
is made, and is sufficient,
that all these processes have constant lengths
_when measured by each other_

And that sort of constancy can actually be disproved.
I think that trying to do that is part of the job of
various national entities around the world.

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