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ok, a sundial is for dialing the sun.


"Hi Sun, where are you?"


"Well, at 12:pm I was here and it's now 3:pm so I'm over here.


a sundial is for making phone calls to the Sun.


"I'm over here now."


You know, you make a phonecall and you ask your girlfriend "Where are
you at?"


She says, "I'm over here!"

You say, "When are you coming over here?"


She sez..."I'll be there by sundown."


Now you gotta call the sun...





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Wait a minute, wait a minute...are
> you trying to tell
> me that a sundial is only a devise
> that ...follows the sun?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > I mean, come on..let's be real here...
> >
> > a clock does not detect time
> >
> > it doesn't even measure the flow of time
> >
> > or the direction of time
> >
> > or the arrow of time
> >
> > (or which way is it going?)
> >
> > okay, i got the bow of time, which
> > way am i pointing the arrow of time?
> >
> > just follow the arrow.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > TH
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > > > sundials...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > > > >
> > > > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > > > >
> > > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > > > >
> > > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > > > >
> > > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > > > >
> > > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > > > >
> > > > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > > > >
> > > > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > > > mechanical shadows..
> > > > >
> > > > > yous still using sundials
> > > > > to measure time with shadows...
> > > > >
> > > > > and imaginary numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > >  sundials...'
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, you take the clock apart..
> > > >
> > > > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > > > what you call hands on the clock
> > > > actually high tech shadows...
> > > >
> > > > then you remove the numbers from
> > > > the face of the clock...
> > > > numbers don't exist out there..
> > > >
> > > > Now what? You take apart the
> > > > actusl cover and what do you see...
> > > >
> > > > a Machine!
> > > >
> > > > No different than removing
> > > > that warm smile from a
> > > > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> > > >
> > > > a Machine!
> > > >
> > > > The clock and the woman
> > > > are illusions.
> > > >
> > > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> > > >
> > > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> > > >
> > > > Is Time an illusion too!
> > > >
> > > > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> > > >
> > > > Does the shadow...tick?
> > > >
> > > > Does the shadow make sudden
> > > > tik tok movements?
> > >
> > > Keep in mind, I understand you
> > > need these illusions to survive..
> > > you need the shadows
> > > the imaginary numbers
> > > and especially..
> > > her warm smile...
> > >
> > > otherwise you would be
> > > seeing not her..but a monster.
> > >
> > > But don't tell me the
> > > universe is mathematical, because
> > > you insult my intelligence.
> > >
> > > Buy her some lipstick.
> > >
> > > Tell her how pretty she looks
> > > while she mocks you with her smile.
> > >
> > > She is just a ...machine.
> > > (with lipstick)
> > >
> > > Machines need illusions too!
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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