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  Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-08 05:28 +0000
    Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2025-04-08 08:33 +0200
      Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-04-08 08:37 +0000
        Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-04-08 09:50 +0000
    Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-10 07:51 +0200
      Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-10 08:22 +0000
        Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-04-10 22:42 +1200
          Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-04-10 11:47 +0100
            Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-10 12:03 +0000
          Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-04-10 14:00 +0000
        Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' x <x@x.org> - 2025-04-10 12:11 -0700
          Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-11 03:57 +0000
            Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-12 10:29 +0200
              Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-12 13:59 +0000
                Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-13 09:15 +0200
            Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-04-13 18:15 +1000
              Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-13 08:26 +0000
              Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-04-13 10:50 +0100
                Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-04-13 20:54 +1000
                  Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-04-13 13:32 +0100
              Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-04-13 12:11 +0100
                Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-04-13 21:28 +1000
                Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-14 21:01 +0200
                  Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 21:19 +0000
                  Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' "B.J./Zachar Zhen Guang" <rqb@mcc.cn> - 2025-04-15 09:28 +0000
      Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-04-10 09:54 +0100
        Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-11 06:44 +0200
          Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia' bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-04-11 09:39 +0000

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#662526 — Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia'

Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
naturally wealthy.

Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor

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#662529

On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:

Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
"Re:..." in the Subject field.

The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without
eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
your ability and understanding of the nature of things.

Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
spoken to.

> 
> Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
> 

Down boy!

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#662530

On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 6:33:55 +0000, occam wrote:

> On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:

Tch tch, Arindam should make a time machine to transport such bigots to
the Dark Ages, where they rightly belong.

> Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
> "Re:..." in the Subject field.


Well, nice to see you have sufficient wit to work that out, ape.
You are evolving, although you have far to go before you ascend the
lowest rung of caninity.

> The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without
> eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
> your ability and understanding of the nature of things.

No worries, ape. Scurrilous matter from putrid ape-minds need not be
given much attention. But they do exist, and should be made use of, to
point out what is what to the apes. About how low the ape-mind can sink.

What matters is what we posted, about why Sir Isaac Newton's greatness
extends beyond physics.

Not that we expect much gratitude from uncivilised apes like you, but
being canine has its obligations, what. We gotta make you apes better
apes. Doggies' burden; must be borne, with majestically waving tail.

To get back to the top of forgeries, let us go back a few centuries
before Newton. To Mohammad bin Tughluq, of the Delhi Sultanate. A
brilliant person, he had the idea of introducing base coinage as a
substitute for the noble coin. He knew that extraordinary benefits, of
the kind enjoyed now by everyone, would ensue. Alas, he was many
centuries ahead of his time. Rampant counterfeiting took place, and the
whole thing was a fiasco. Now, if he had someone like Sir Isaac Newton
to help him with the whole money business, making counterfeiting
difficult or impossible, then wow he would have made extraordinary
gains.

> Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
> spoken to.

Any ape with more wits than you could find out the original article from
the newgroups mentioned. To do you justice, you do have some minimum
courage, as you have not killfiled us as Moylan and others have. Yet,
behave, unless you want to be a howler monkey in your next birth.

Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdoggies, doing propaganda work
for him)

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#662531

On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 8:36:59 +0000, bertitaylor wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 6:33:55 +0000, occam wrote:
>
>> On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:
>
> Tch tch, Arindam should make a time machine to transport such bigots to
> the Dark Ages, where they rightly belong.
>
>> Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
>> "Re:..." in the Subject field.
>
>
> Well, nice to see you have sufficient wit to work that out, ape.
> You are evolving, although you have far to go before you ascend the
> lowest rung of caninity.
>
>> The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without
>> eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
>> your ability and understanding of the nature of things.
>
> No worries, ape. Scurrilous matter from putrid ape-minds need not be
> given much attention. But they do exist, and should be made use of, to
> point out what is what to the apes. About how low the ape-mind can sink.
>
> What matters is what we posted, about why Sir Isaac Newton's greatness
> extends beyond physics.
>
> Not that we expect much gratitude from uncivilised apes like you, but
> being canine has its obligations, what. We gotta make you apes better
> apes. Doggies' burden; must be borne, with majestically waving tail.
>
> To get back to the top

woof woof, should be topic instead of top. Apologies, apes.



 of forgeries, let us go back a few centuries
> before Newton. To Mohammad bin Tughluq, of the Delhi Sultanate. A
> brilliant person, he had the idea of introducing base coinage as a
> substitute for the noble coin. He knew that extraordinary benefits, of
> the kind enjoyed now by everyone, would ensue. Alas, he was many
> centuries ahead of his time. Rampant counterfeiting took place, and the
> whole thing was a fiasco. Now, if he had someone like Sir Isaac Newton
> to help him with the whole money business, making counterfeiting
> difficult or impossible, then wow he would have made extraordinary
> gains.

It does not pay to be so far ahead of your time. Whether Sultan Mohammed
bin Tughluq was a madman or a genius is debated to this day. Bet the
white apes here never heard of him., woof woof.
>
>> Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
>> spoken to.
>
> Any ape with more wits than you could find out the original article from
> the newgroups mentioned. To do you justice, you do have some minimum
> courage, as you have not killfiled us as Moylan and others have. Yet,
> behave, unless you want to be a howler monkey in your next birth.
>
> Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdoggies, doing propaganda work
> for him)
>
> --

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#662586

Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
> 
> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
> naturally wealthy.
> 
> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from 
other metals.

So, in a way he was a forger himself.

But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself 
(similar to Shakespeare).

TH

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#662595

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>
>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
>> naturally wealthy.
>>
>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
>
> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
> other metals.

Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>
> So, in a way he was a forger himself.

Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
materials.

> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
> (similar to Shakespeare).

Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
elites of their time.

Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
imperatives.

Woof woof woof-woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
> TH

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#662599

On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
>>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>
>>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
>>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
>>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
>>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
>>> naturally wealthy.
>>>
>>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
>>
>> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
>> other metals.
> 
> Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
> of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>
>> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
> 
> Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
> idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
> materials.
> 
>> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
>> (similar to Shakespeare).
> 
> Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
> elites of their time.
> 
> Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
> comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
> following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
> imperatives.
> 
> Woof woof woof-woof woof
> 
> Bertietaylor
>>
>> TH
> 
> -- 

Internet Profile?
Intimate Parts??!?

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#662600

Le 10/04/2025 à 11:42, Ross Clark a écrit :
> On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically 
>>>> worthless
>>>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
>>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
>>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
>>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
>>>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in 
>>>> counterfeiting.
>>>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug 
>>>> gold
>>>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
>>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
>>>> naturally wealthy.
>>>>
>>>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
>>> other metals.
>>
>> Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
>> of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>
>>> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
>>
>> Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
>> idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
>> materials.
>>
>>> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
>>> (similar to Shakespeare).
>>
>> Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
>> elites of their time.
>>
>> Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
>> comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
>> following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
>> imperatives.
>>
>> Woof woof woof-woof woof
> 
> Internet Profile?
> Intimate Parts??!?

Good question. I'm intrigued by 'previous metals'.

Still it's good that Bertie is doggedly studying English.

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#662603

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:47:45 +0000, Hibou wrote:

> Le 10/04/2025 à 11:42, Ross Clark a écrit :
>> On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
>>>>> worthless
>>>>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
>>>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
>>>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
>>>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
>>>>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
>>>>> counterfeiting.
>>>>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
>>>>> gold
>>>>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
>>>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
>>>>> naturally wealthy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
>>>> other metals.
>>>
>>> Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
>>> of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>>
>>>> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
>>>
>>> Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
>>> idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
>>> materials.
>>>
>>>> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
>>>> (similar to Shakespeare).
>>>
>>> Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
>>> elites of their time.
>>>
>>> Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
>>> comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
>>> following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
>>> imperatives.
>>>
>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof
>>
>> Internet Profile?
>> Intimate Parts??!?
>
> Good question. I'm intrigued by 'previous metals'.
>
> Still it's good that Bertie is doggedly studying English.

You apes can learn English from Arindam, the best.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor

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#662607

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:42:51 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:

> On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
>>>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
>>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
>>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
>>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
>>>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
>>>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
>>>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
>>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
>>>> naturally wealthy.
>>>>
>>>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
>>> other metals.
>>
>> Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
>> of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>
>>> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
>>
>> Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
>> idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
>> materials.
>>
>>> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
>>> (similar to Shakespeare).
>>
>> Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
>> elites of their time.
>>
>> Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
>> comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
>> following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
>> imperatives.
>>
>> Woof woof woof-woof woof
>>
>> Bertietaylor
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> --
>
> Internet Profile?


https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/

> Intimate Parts??!?

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The cause of gravity
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Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories -
1
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2
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thought-provoking epic stories showing up the universal truths searched
for by men over ages. The author has carefully reconstructed the diverse
versions of the ancient tales with his research efforts over the last 15
years. He seeks to present what they meant to Indians two or three
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with modern flourishes. These classic stories deal with valour, romance,
mystery, magic, duty; by reading them we may find out how much they have
shaped our minds about the deepest moral issues over thousands of years,
spanning national boundaries. The eternal conflicts between the
principled Gods and the opportunistic Demons form the main interest. In
this book, they effectively come out of our minds and take shapes and
desires of their own! The demon-hero Andhak, is the protagonist in the
main story. Born blind and ugly, out of his mother's impulse and
father's pain, he is discarded by them for adoption by Hiranyaksh, the
demon-king. Andhak is horribly treated by his cousins after his adoptive
father's death in battle against the Gods. With great effort he
overcomes his limitations, and fights the Gods, seeking vengeance... An
excerpt follows: Hiranyaksh, the Asura king, was doing severe penances
to propitiate Shiva. Such was his prayer: "O Shiva, greatest of Devas,
do hear my prayer and grant me this boon! I have no wish for
immortality; I do not wish to be any Deva, eternally bound to principles
and ideals. I am happy to be just what I am: an Asura, a demon driven by
passion and ego, delighting in opulence and fame and revelries. By Your
grace, I already possess vast might, large armies, incredible wealth -
so much that we are now about to challenge the Devas. "O Shiva, there is
no one higher among us Asuras to pray to, than myself. Only to You, the
very greatest Deva, the most principled, indeed the very best among
Them, most certainly the most powerful - only to You can I pray, for You
are the most superior among all entities. From You I beseech a boon.
"Shiva, do cast Your favourable eye upon me. Be kind to me. You know
that although I am an Asura I am still accessible to Your grace. Forget
the squabbles we have to have with the lesser Devas. Those selfish and
uncaring hypocrites, aloof and joyless; those moral snobs, pursuing cold
and lonely habits; are a natural affront to our senses of equality and
gregarious living. They deserve chastisement from time to time. "O
Shiva, we Asuras are nothing without passion. Most passionately, I want
a son. My brother Hiranyakshap, he has four strong sons. I don't want
any of them to inherit my kingdom. I want my own son to rule the Asuras.
Of all the Asuras, he must be the bravest and the strongest - he must
dominate all. All must be in fear and awe of him. "Shiva, give me such a
son."

woof woof

Bertietaylor

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#662610

On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
 > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
 >
 >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
 >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
 >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically 
worthless
 >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
 >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
 >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
 >>>
 >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
 >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
 >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in 
counterfeiting.
 >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug 
gold
 >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
 >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
 >>> naturally wealthy.
 >>>
 >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.
 >>
 >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
 >> other metals.
 >
 > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
 > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
could be 'alchemy'.

 >>
 >> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
 >
 > Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
 > idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
 > materials.
 >
 >> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
 >> (similar to Shakespeare).
 >
 > Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
 > elites of their time.
 >
 > Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
 > comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
 > following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
 > imperatives.
 >
 > Woof woof woof-woof woof
 >
 > Bertietaylor
 >>
 >> TH
 >
 > --

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#662628

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:

> On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
>  > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>  >
>  >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>  >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
> worthless
>  >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
> immense
>  >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
> possible
>  >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>  >>>
>  >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
> that
>  >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
> the
>  >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
> counterfeiting.
>  >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
> gold
>  >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
> their
>  >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk
> are
>  >>> naturally wealthy.
>  >>>
>  >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
> humanity.
>  >>
>  >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
> from
>  >> other metals.
>  >
>  > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
> out
>  > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>
> Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
> technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
> if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
> could be 'alchemy'.

Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
will work to solve energy problems.

Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
relationship, the basis for future physics.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
>  >
>  >> So, in a way he was a forger himself.
>  >
>  > Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
>  > idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
>  > materials.
>  >
>  >> But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
>  >> (similar to Shakespeare).
>  >
>  > Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
>  > elites of their time.
>  >
>  > Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
>  > comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
>  > following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
>  > imperatives.
>  >
>  > Woof woof woof-woof woof
>  >
>  > Bertietaylor
>  >>
>  >> TH
>  >
>  > --

--

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#662663

Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>  > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>  >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
>> worthless
>>  >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
>> immense
>>  >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
>> possible
>>  >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
>> that
>>  >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
>> the
>>  >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
>> counterfeiting.
>>  >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
>> gold
>>  >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
>> their
>>  >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk
>> are
>>  >>> naturally wealthy.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
>> humanity.
>>  >>
>>  >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
>> from
>>  >> other metals.
>>  >
>>  > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
>> out
>>  > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>
>> Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
>> technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
>> if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
>> could be 'alchemy'.
> 
> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
> high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
> will work to solve energy problems.
> 
> Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
> relationship, the basis for future physics.

...

I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle 
concept') is wrong.

I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles 
are 'timelike stable patterns'.

As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as 
correct).

The idea behind my arguments:
I needed an example, which invalidates the so called 'great 
materialistic meta-paradigm', what 'Growing Earth' would do.

...

TH

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#662668

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 8:29:58 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>  > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>  >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
>>> worthless
>>>  >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
>>> immense
>>>  >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
>>> possible
>>>  >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
>>> that
>>>  >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
>>> the
>>>  >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
>>> counterfeiting.
>>>  >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
>>> gold
>>>  >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
>>> their
>>>  >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk
>>> are
>>>  >>> naturally wealthy.
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
>>> humanity.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
>>> from
>>>  >> other metals.
>>>  >
>>>  > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
>>> out
>>>  > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>
>>> Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
>>> technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
>>> if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
>>> could be 'alchemy'.
>>
>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
>> high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
>> will work to solve energy problems.
>>
>> Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
>> relationship, the basis for future physics.
>
> ....
>
> I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle
> concept') is wrong.

The proton and the electron are mobile realisations of aether, formed
from the force of life, that is eternal, infinite, ever present. Call
them particles or whatever, they are the most fundamental force for
repulsion and attraction.
>
> I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
> are 'timelike stable patterns'.

Arindam thinks of them as concepts so everything material or mass is an
aggregation of concepts.
>
> As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as
> correct).

A cell grows with life force, divides and in that division multiplies.
Where do the extra electrons and protons come from?

So much we do not know. But if we are all concepts or ideas much as
electronic money or video then somehow we can transport suavely
elsewhere.
>
> The idea behind my arguments:
> I needed an example, which invalidates the so called 'great
> materialistic meta-paradigm', what 'Growing Earth' would do.

Consider cells from above.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
>
> ....
>
> TH

--

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#662681

Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 15:59 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 8:29:58 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>>  > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>  >
>>>>  >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>>  >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
>>>> worthless
>>>>  >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
>>>> immense
>>>>  >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
>>>> possible
>>>>  >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
>>>> that
>>>>  >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
>>>> the
>>>>  >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
>>>> counterfeiting.
>>>>  >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to 
>>>> lug
>>>> gold
>>>>  >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
>>>> their
>>>>  >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful 
>>>> folk
>>>> are
>>>>  >>> naturally wealthy.
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
>>>> humanity.
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
>>>> from
>>>>  >> other metals.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
>>>> out
>>>>  > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>>
>>>> Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
>>>> technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
>>>> if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
>>>> could be 'alchemy'.
>>>
>>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
>>> high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
>>> will work to solve energy problems.
>>>
>>> Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
>>> relationship, the basis for future physics.
>>
>> ....
>>
>> I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle
>> concept') is wrong.
> 
> The proton and the electron are mobile realisations of aether, formed
> from the force of life, that is eternal, infinite, ever present. Call
> them particles or whatever, they are the most fundamental force for
> repulsion and attraction.
>>
>> I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
>> are 'timelike stable patterns'.
> 
> Arindam thinks of them as concepts so everything material or mass is an
> aggregation of concepts.
>>
>> As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as
>> correct).
> 
> A cell grows with life force, divides and in that division multiplies.
> Where do the extra electrons and protons come from?

I wanted to prove, that there are no real particles, but 'timelike 
stable structures'.

Therefore matter could pop out of nowhere and vanish into nothing.

The 'pop out of nowhere' case would be 'Growing Earth'.
(also: 'big-bang' or 'magic dust').

The 'vanish into nothing' case has also a famous example: 9/11.
...


TH

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#662684

On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
> with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
> stars, will work to solve energy problems.

You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever
fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#662685

On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 8:15:14 +0000, Peter Moylan wrote:

> On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:
>
>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
>> with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
>> stars, will work to solve energy problems.
>
> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever
> fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

Wrong as ever, Moylan.
As e = mcc is a bogus formula it is useful to frauds and SciFi for money
making.
It does not explain solar energy.
From Arindam's physics energy or rather em radiation meaning em force is
continuously created by the sun and stars on a kinetic basis. No need
for e=mcc when the laws of thermodynamics are thrown out.
E=0.5mvvN(N-k) rules
Check his links where he has described his future physics in detail.
And stop telling lies. Grow up.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

Bertietaylor

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#662686

On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:
> 
>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
>> with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
>> stars, will work to solve energy problems.
> 
> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if 
> E=mc^2 ever
> fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy 
> equivalence.

You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they 
ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon 
fusion.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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#662688

On 13/04/25 19:50, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>
>>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding
>>> it with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun
>>> and stars, will work to solve energy problems.
>>
>> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2
>> ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy
>> equivalence.
>
> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they
> ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon
> fusion.

Oops. I swear I had fusion in mind when I wrote that, but my fingers
must have had a different opinion.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#662691

On 13/04/2025 11:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 13/04/25 19:50, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding
>>>> it with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the 
>>>> sun
>>>> and stars, will work to solve energy problems.
>>>
>>> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if 
>>> E=mc^2
>>> ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy
>>> equivalence.
>>
>> You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they
>> ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon
>> fusion.
> 
> Oops. I swear I had fusion in mind when I wrote that, but my fingers
> must have had a different opinion.

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