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Re: The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia'

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Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 15:59 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 8:29:58 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>>>  > On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>  >
>>>>  >> Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>>  >>> Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
>>>>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
>>>> worthless
>>>>  >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
>>>> immense
>>>>  >>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
>>>> possible
>>>>  >>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>> Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
>>>> that
>>>>  >>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
>>>> the
>>>>  >>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
>>>> counterfeiting.
>>>>  >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to 
>>>> lug
>>>> gold
>>>>  >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
>>>> their
>>>>  >>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful 
>>>> folk
>>>> are
>>>>  >>> naturally wealthy.
>>>>  >>>
>>>>  >>> Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
>>>> humanity.
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >> As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
>>>> from
>>>>  >> other metals.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
>>>> out
>>>>  > of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.
>>>>
>>>> Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
>>>> technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
>>>> if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
>>>> could be 'alchemy'.
>>>
>>> Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
>>> high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
>>> will work to solve energy problems.
>>>
>>> Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
>>> relationship, the basis for future physics.
>>
>> ....
>>
>> I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle
>> concept') is wrong.
> 
> The proton and the electron are mobile realisations of aether, formed
> from the force of life, that is eternal, infinite, ever present. Call
> them particles or whatever, they are the most fundamental force for
> repulsion and attraction.
>>
>> I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
>> are 'timelike stable patterns'.
> 
> Arindam thinks of them as concepts so everything material or mass is an
> aggregation of concepts.
>>
>> As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as
>> correct).
> 
> A cell grows with life force, divides and in that division multiplies.
> Where do the extra electrons and protons come from?

I wanted to prove, that there are no real particles, but 'timelike 
stable structures'.

Therefore matter could pop out of nowhere and vanish into nothing.

The 'pop out of nowhere' case would be 'Growing Earth'.
(also: 'big-bang' or 'magic dust').

The 'vanish into nothing' case has also a famous example: 9/11.
...


TH

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