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The Earth is at the Center of the Universe

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2022-10-04 00:43 -0700
Last post2022-10-26 08:27 +0200
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  The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-04 00:43 -0700
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-04 06:42 -0500
      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe lostgold <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org> - 2022-10-04 09:23 -0700
        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-04 22:45 -0500
          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe lostgold <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org> - 2022-10-05 05:23 -0700
            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-05 20:33 -0700
              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-05 22:45 -0500
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 09:55 -0700
                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 19:00 -0700
                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-07 21:34 -0500
                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 19:56 -0700
                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 12:17 -0700
                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-08 19:21 +0000
                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 12:25 -0700
                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-08 19:31 +0000
                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-10-08 12:42 -0700
                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 17:31 -0700
                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-25 07:18 +0200
                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Urbano Stilo <nuor@riotlaur.iu> - 2022-10-08 03:51 +0000
                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-23 09:06 +0200
                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 07:25 +0000
                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 18:29 +0000
                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 19:54 +0000
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-07 14:55 -0700
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe lostgold <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org> - 2022-10-04 09:22 -0700
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-10-04 10:11 -0700
      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-04 11:07 -0700
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-10 09:53 +0200
      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 17:51 -0700
        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-11 07:50 +0200
          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 12:55 -0700
            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Mandy Stabile <alts@ilnnnbsl.ed> - 2022-10-11 20:17 +0000
              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 13:40 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-12 08:07 +0200
                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 12:17 -0700
                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-14 08:33 +0200
                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-14 09:57 -0700
                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-15 09:17 +0200
                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-15 11:50 -0700
                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-16 09:22 +0200
                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-16 11:39 -0700
                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-17 08:06 +0200
                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-17 14:17 -0700
                                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-18 08:44 +0200
                                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 12:14 -0700
                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-20 20:53 +0200
                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-20 12:28 -0700
                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-21 08:52 +0200
                                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-21 21:42 -0700
                                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-22 10:32 +0200
                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-22 08:43 -0700
                                                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-22 10:55 -0700
                                                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-22 11:39 -0700
                                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-22 18:58 +0000
                                                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-23 08:58 +0200
                                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-23 12:25 -0700
                                                          Sick Einstein Obsession (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-23 14:55 -0500
                                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-25 07:27 +0200
                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-25 10:42 -0700
                                                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-27 09:05 +0200
                                                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-27 00:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-27 11:10 -0500
                                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-27 18:58 -0700
                                                                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-27 21:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 04:39 -0500
                                                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 10:02 -0700
                                                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-10-28 19:21 +0200
                                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 12:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 12:42 -0700
                                                                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 13:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 16:06 -0500
                                                                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 16:04 -0500
                                                                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 16:36 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 18:34 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 21:00 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 22:03 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:40 -0500
                                                                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-30 12:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 16:02 -0500
                                                                                              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-30 17:13 -0700
                                                                                                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 20:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-29 11:20 -0700
                                                                                          Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 14:22 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the   Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-30 07:53 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-30 16:15 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-31 09:18 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-31 00:51 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-31 14:36 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Buddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du> - 2022-10-31 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-01 07:27 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-01 09:00 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Reiner Abbatelli <enre@lbeiet.re> - 2022-11-01 15:53 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-01 22:51 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-02 08:40 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-02 00:48 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-02 09:10 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-03 01:11 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-03 10:37 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-03 10:50 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-03 18:26 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-04 08:10 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center   of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-05 09:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-01 09:05 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of   the Universe) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-11-02 08:44 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the  Universe) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-29 23:20 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another armchair "expert" (was Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 07:50 -0500
                                                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:28 -0500
                                                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-28 16:03 -0500
                                                                          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-29 00:10 -0400
                                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-29 00:36 -0500
                                                                  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-28 08:40 +0200
                                                            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-26 08:27 +0200

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#593986

FromOscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn>
Date2022-10-23 07:25 +0000
Message-ID<tj2q9a$15is3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593983
Thomas Heger wrote:

> Time is in the universe not a universal parameter, but a local
> parameter.
> To any such point belongs therefore also a local past and a local
> timeline.
> 
> Seen from an perspective the universe looks universal, while it is
> actually the local past light cone.

I'm not so sure

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+asbsRfAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg=='>

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#594015

FromOscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn>
Date2022-10-23 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<tj415g$1bfs9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593986
Michael Moroney wrote:

>> 
Tj7fGNlZVIjw2iAAACVklEQVQ4jVWUTW7bMBCFh2wBbcm0QLbMyK32ohNui5i1DxBLB2glZuvSbnj9vqFlJR1YMDAfn4bzJxrSFPcppZ1z3J0jbJ/
> 
> <snip binary garbage>
> Must be the new guy at the Nymshifter Troll office in St. Petersburg. It

you are incapable to decode, fucking bitch, but you are history in europe 
you stole from in decades and centuries. The chinese are just waiting 
occupy the shithole territory you stole from the indigenous. And now, that 
you know where you welfare and prosperity came, Russia and Chine, you 
either show respect or are going to suck their dicks. Absolutely. I fuck 
you ass, bitch!

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#594022

FromOscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn>
Date2022-10-23 19:54 +0000
Message-ID<tj464t$1brt9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593986
Michael Moroney wrote:

>> png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEVbLy8W
>> GRqFblDguJ7h4+L08Tj7fGNlZVIjw2iAAACVklEQVQ4jVWUTW7bMBCFh2wBbcm0QLbMyK32
>> ohNui5i1DxBLB2glZuvSbnj9vqFlJR1YMDAfn4bzJxrSFPcppZ1z3J0jbJ/
> 
> <snip binary garbage>
> Must be the new guy at the Nymshifter Troll office in St. Petersburg. It

take it from an american, you stupid, lying subhuman excrement. You are 
illegally supporting the nazis, you stinking son of a bitch.

Scott Ritter: Talks Ukraine⧸Russia Conflict - LATEST
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/AKfvmUOuG5eI/

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#593036

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-07 14:55 -0700
Message-ID<g181kht9ovdnqt09lnh2te2c9v1f4bm8he@4ax.com>
In reply to#592958
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 22:45:49 -0500, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
wrote:

>On 10/5/2022 10:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT), lostgold
>> <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 11:45:39 PM UTC-4, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 10/4/2022 11:23 AM, lostgold wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 7:42:39 AM UTC-4, whodat wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/4/2022 2:43 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and if you want proof...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just do an experiment on it.
>>>>>> Can't disprove is not the same as proof. Grammar school
>>>>>> (lower grades in fact) logic. Congratulations, you've
>>>>>> achieved the peak of your career.
>>>>> what the does that even mean?
>>>> That you are brain damaged.
>>> But didn’t you say you also have brain damage
>> 
>> 
>> Albert Einstein was diagnosed with...brain damage..
>
>Who diagnosed him?
>
>

You mean besides me, Albert Einstein had Autism, that is brain
damaged.


Anyone can look at photos of Albert Einstein and see for themselves he
always had brain damage. 

(just like you diagnosed lostgold with having brain damage.)

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#592865

Fromlostgold <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org>
Date2022-10-04 09:22 -0700
Message-ID<22accbc1-96cf-4de2-b8bb-0fd91c80caa3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592851
On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 3:43:35 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe 
> 
> and if you want proof... 
> 
> just do an experiment on it. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

i can see how you got there.

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#592870

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2022-10-04 10:11 -0700
Message-ID<22c69a8f-9ab1-4825-b1a5-1c465d1d930bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#592851
On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 12:43:35 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe 
> 
> and if you want proof... 
> 
> just do an experiment on it. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.
I recall some cosmology that found expanding "shells" of galaxies that were centered on the earth.   Quantized redshift was the emperical giveaway.  

https://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show

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#592871

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-04 11:07 -0700
Message-ID<633C7655.3732@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#592870
patdolan wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 12:43:35 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
> >
> > and if you want proof...
> >
> > just do an experiment on it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> I recall some cosmology that found expanding "shells" of galaxies that were centered on the earth.   Quantized redshift was the emperical giveaway.
> 
> https://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show


The expanding shells of galaxies are like an ocean when the Earth was
thrown in the pond. The Earth gave life to all the galaxies in the
universe.


just do an experiment on it...

fill up your bathtub with water..
and throw stone in the center
of the tub...


watch expanding "shells" of galaxies.


dats why
she sells
sea shells
on the 
sea shore.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593216

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-10 09:53 +0200
Message-ID<jqi1c5Faho5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#592851
Am 04.10.2022 um 09:43 schrieb The Starmaker:
> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe


The real universe has no center.

What we call 'universe' is actually not universal, neither.


What we call 'universe' is actually our own past light cone.

Of that 'universe' Earth is, of course, the center.


TH

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#593243

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-10 17:51 -0700
Message-ID<84743f46-91b3-44b7-9507-e8c558407ca7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593216
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:45 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 04.10.2022 um 09:43 schrieb The Starmaker: 
> > The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
> The real universe has no center. 
> 
> What we call 'universe' is actually not universal, neither. 
> 
> 
> What we call 'universe' is actually our own past light cone. 
> 
> Of that 'universe' Earth is, of course, the center. 
> 
> 
> TH

The moving Earth appears as its own center.
The Earth's gravity field moves with it.
Forces move...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#593267

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-11 07:50 +0200
Message-ID<jqkeh8Fm1g8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593243
Am 11.10.2022 um 02:51 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:45 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 04.10.2022 um 09:43 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
>> The real universe has no center.
>>
>> What we call 'universe' is actually not universal, neither.
>>
>>
>> What we call 'universe' is actually our own past light cone.
>>
>> Of that 'universe' Earth is, of course, the center.
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> The moving Earth appears as its own center.
> The Earth's gravity field moves with it.
> Forces move...

This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of the 
universe.


TH

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#593304

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-11 12:55 -0700
Message-ID<e78056ad-8b36-4590-9645-aa1aca500ae8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593267
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 10:50:35 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 11.10.2022 um 02:51 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com: 
> > On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:45 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: 
> >> Am 04.10.2022 um 09:43 schrieb The Starmaker: 
> >>> The Earth is at the Center of the Universe 
> >> The real universe has no center. 
> >> 
> >> What we call 'universe' is actually not universal, neither. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What we call 'universe' is actually our own past light cone. 
> >> 
> >> Of that 'universe' Earth is, of course, the center. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> TH 
> > 
> > The moving Earth appears as its own center. 
> > The Earth's gravity field moves with it. 
> > Forces move...
> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of the 
> universe. 
> 
> 
> TH

It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in the universe.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#593305

FromMandy Stabile <alts@ilnnnbsl.ed>
Date2022-10-11 20:17 +0000
Message-ID<ti4j10$162dh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593304
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of
>> the universe. TH
> 
> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in
> the universe.

there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a 
*reference_frame*, and one of the reasons, you've been born on this fucking 
capitalist nazi planet. Watch this

EU MP demands and gets some straight answers from Pfizer
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/TQgkJ1HAyjfQ/

and these khazars immigrants wankers of americaca.

At this point what difference does it make. Starring Killary & Commie
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/IkIDDSYUjYTx/

and these nazis, *the_wanker_putina* released 215, in exchange for 50 
soldiers from the cocaine khazar zelenske. I don't know, the mathematics is 
hard with putina. *He_releases_the_nazis*.

Bucha 2.0 | Ukrainian neo-Nazi blamesRussia for 'mass grave'
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/4iyLiRQZfQhR/

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#593307

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-11 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<d38362b1-acb4-4653-8ded-aa798087a0dan@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593305
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> >> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of 
> >> the universe. TH 
> > 
> > It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in 
> > the universe.
> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a 

That is only the appearance of your center...
It does not give a real center to the universe.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#593325

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-12 08:07 +0200
Message-ID<jqn3tcF46m7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593307
Am 11.10.2022 um 22:40 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of
>>>> the universe. TH
>>>
>>> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in
>>> the universe.
>> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a
>
> That is only the appearance of your center...
> It does not give a real center to the universe.


More important: it does also not give a single time.

You could actually assume, the universe would have local times only.


This is really difficult to understand, but think, that there is not 
only a forward running time, but also an invisible realm, where time 
runs backwards, if seen from our perspektive.

Seen from there, our time runs backwards.

Now add these two realms together and you have an overlay of forward 
runnig time and backwards running time.

The only time visible is the own time, which runs forewards by default.

But the other time exists also, but is not visible.


The global structure of the universe would than be:

it is like folding back inwards, where time runs backwards.

TH

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#593382

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-13 12:17 -0700
Message-ID<6bd2be19-139d-4e69-becb-143f743cb21bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593325
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:07:44 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 11.10.2022 um 22:40 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com: 
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote: 
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> 
> >>>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of 
> >>>> the universe. TH 
> >>> 
> >>> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in 
> >>> the universe. 
> >> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a 
> > 
> > That is only the appearance of your center... 
> > It does not give a real center to the universe.
> More important: it does also not give a single time. 
> 
> You could actually assume, the universe would have local times only. 
> 
> 
> This is really difficult to understand, but think, that there is not 
> only a forward running time, but also an invisible realm, where time 
> runs backwards, if seen from our perspektive. 
> 
> Seen from there, our time runs backwards. 
> 
> Now add these two realms together and you have an overlay of forward 
> runnig time and backwards running time. 
> 
> The only time visible is the own time, which runs forewards by default. 
> 
> But the other time exists also, but is not visible. 
> 
> 
> The global structure of the universe would than be: 
> 
> it is like folding back inwards, where time runs backwards. 
> 
> TH

Across the universe is a common instant.
It does not matter distance in between for
clock as their time continues everywhere.
As it has since the BB...


Mitchell Raemsch

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#593410

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-14 08:33 +0200
Message-ID<jqse56FlhfkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593382
Am 13.10.2022 um 21:17 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:07:44 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 11.10.2022 um 22:40 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote:
>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of
>>>>>> the universe. TH
>>>>>
>>>>> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in
>>>>> the universe.
>>>> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a
>>>
>>> That is only the appearance of your center...
>>> It does not give a real center to the universe.
>> More important: it does also not give a single time.
>>
>> You could actually assume, the universe would have local times only.
>>
>>
>> This is really difficult to understand, but think, that there is not
>> only a forward running time, but also an invisible realm, where time
>> runs backwards, if seen from our perspektive.
>>
>> Seen from there, our time runs backwards.
>>
>> Now add these two realms together and you have an overlay of forward
>> runnig time and backwards running time.
>>
>> The only time visible is the own time, which runs forewards by default.
>>
>> But the other time exists also, but is not visible.
>>
>>
>> The global structure of the universe would than be:
>>
>> it is like folding back inwards, where time runs backwards.
>>
>> TH
>
> Across the universe is a common instant.
> It does not matter distance in between for
> clock as their time continues everywhere.
> As it has since the BB...
>
>
What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.

But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not 
see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.

This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.

Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of 
it are not.

It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the 
pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.

But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which 
could eventually have such properties as a universal time.


TH

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#593424

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-14 09:57 -0700
Message-ID<634994FD.1F4C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#593410
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 13.10.2022 um 21:17 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:07:44 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >> Am 11.10.2022 um 22:40 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote:
> >>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of
> >>>>>> the universe. TH
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in
> >>>>> the universe.
> >>>> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a
> >>>
> >>> That is only the appearance of your center...
> >>> It does not give a real center to the universe.
> >> More important: it does also not give a single time.
> >>
> >> You could actually assume, the universe would have local times only.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is really difficult to understand, but think, that there is not
> >> only a forward running time, but also an invisible realm, where time
> >> runs backwards, if seen from our perspektive.
> >>
> >> Seen from there, our time runs backwards.
> >>
> >> Now add these two realms together and you have an overlay of forward
> >> runnig time and backwards running time.
> >>
> >> The only time visible is the own time, which runs forewards by default.
> >>
> >> But the other time exists also, but is not visible.
> >>
> >>
> >> The global structure of the universe would than be:
> >>
> >> it is like folding back inwards, where time runs backwards.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > Across the universe is a common instant.
> > It does not matter distance in between for
> > clock as their time continues everywhere.
> > As it has since the BB...
> >
> >
> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.
> 
> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not
> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.
> 
> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.
> 
> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of
> it are not.
> 
> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the
> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.
> 
> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which
> could eventually have such properties as a universal time.
> 
> TH



Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate?

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593471

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-15 09:17 +0200
Message-ID<jqv544F3oooU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593424
Am 14.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb The Starmaker:

>> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.
>>
>> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not
>> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.
>>
>> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.
>>
>> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of
>> it are not.
>>
>> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the
>> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.
>>
>> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which
>> could eventually have such properties as a universal time.
>>
>> TH
>
>
>
> Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate?
>

Well, possibly...

But usually - as a hobbyist- I expect nothing.


TH

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#593511

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-10-15 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<ldvlkh96g9dk7epsfpmoh664pboiqtvbrs@4ax.com>
In reply to#593471
On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:17:26 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am 14.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb The Starmaker:
>
>>> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.
>>>
>>> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not
>>> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.
>>>
>>> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.
>>>
>>> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of
>>> it are not.
>>>
>>> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the
>>> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.
>>>
>>> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which
>>> could eventually have such properties as a universal time.
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate?
>>
>
>Well, possibly...
>
>But usually - as a hobbyist- I expect nothing.
>
>
>TH


A 'hobby'???? I didn't know religion was considered a hobby. This
religion of yours known as 'cosmic religion' ...or should i call it
cosmic hobby, you worship the stars.

'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth'.

No matter what name you have for God, Jesus, the old One,
'Nothingness'...a universe from Nothing/God, ...it's still
a religion.

I'll tell you what, you preach the stars, and I'll pass around the
collection plate.

i take bitcoins.



Science is just a religion.

Do you believe in flying saucers? It's okay if you do, it's part of
the religion.

Billion and billions of earth-like planets? Show me a picture of
just...one.


 I'll pass around the collection plate.

i take PayPal.









--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#593546

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2022-10-16 09:22 +0200
Message-ID<jr1pq4Fg7ftU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593511
Am 15.10.2022 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:17:26 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Am 14.10.2022 um 18:57 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>
>>>> What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.
>>>>
>>>> But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not
>>>> see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.
>>>>
>>>> This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.
>>>>
>>>> Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of
>>>> it are not.
>>>>
>>>> It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the
>>>> pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.
>>>>
>>>> But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which
>>>> could eventually have such properties as a universal time.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't this where you need to start passing around the collection plate?
>>>
>>
>> Well, possibly...
>>
>> But usually - as a hobbyist- I expect nothing.
>>
>>
>> TH
>
>
> A 'hobby'???? I didn't know religion was considered a hobby. This
> religion of yours known as 'cosmic religion' ...or should i call it
> cosmic hobby, you worship the stars.
>
> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth'.
>
> No matter what name you have for God, Jesus, the old One,
> 'Nothingness'...a universe from Nothing/God, ...it's still
> a religion.
>
> I'll tell you what, you preach the stars, and I'll pass around the
> collection plate.
>
> i take bitcoins.
>
>
>
> Science is just a religion.


Not really.

I regard physics as a hobby, but not as a religion.

Religion is based on believe, while science is based on not believing 
anything.

It is actually essential, to question everything, even what seems to be 
most obvious.

If you would not do that, or worse forbade scrutiny, you end up with a 
scientific mess.

In science we also have cooperation around the globe, between believers 
of different religions and of different nations.

This turns science into something international and belonging to all 
believe systems in existence.


> Do you believe in flying saucers? It's okay if you do, it's part of
> the religion.

Well, yes, I think, the theory, that the Nazis have built 'Haunebu IV' 
flying saucers is actually true.

The Nazis have flown them to 'New Swabia' in the Antarctic and faught a 
battle with the US-Navi there, which they had won.

(but that is just a guess)


TH

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