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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800 |
| Last post | 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800 |
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ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-20 14:26 +0100
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-21 07:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 09:19 +0100
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-23 11:54 +0100
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-23 14:12 +0100
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-23 22:15 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 14:15 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:01 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:35 -0800
Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 20:49 +0100
Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-25 10:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:01 +0000
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 14:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vmtf7l$1l2kl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660730 |
On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >> >>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg >>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. >>>>>> >>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. >>>>> >>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed any >>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". >>>> >>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, >>>> when the Americans took over. >>>> >>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that bullshit they >>>>> wrote. >>>> >>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, >>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. >>>> >>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. >>>> >>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood >>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, >>> >>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came actually >>> from Paris. >> >> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to write >> idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near Paris, yes, >> but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as one would guess. > > > Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through > Germany, before he went to Russia. OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. > > The German Kaiser admitted later, that Lenin was supported, because he > should harm Russia. > > Possibly the French have something similar to the CIA, too, which could > do dirty tricks by sending 'refugees' back. > > But actually I don't know and possibly the French don't have secret > agencies and never do dirty tricks. > > But Germans did, I must admit, but not with Khomeini. > > > ... > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 22:15 +0100 |
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Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > > Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > >> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > >> > >>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: > >>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg > >>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. > >>>>> > >>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed any > >>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". > >>>> > >>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, > >>>> when the Americans took over. > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that bullshit they > >>>>> wrote. > >>>> > >>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, > >>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. > >>>> > >>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. > >>>> > >>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood > >>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, > >>> > >>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came actually > >>> from Paris. > >> > >> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to write > >> idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near Paris, yes, > >> but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as one would guess. > > > > > > Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through > > Germany, before he went to Russia. > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. Yes, at. Unfortunately that is not the only issue.... Jan
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 14:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6792BF66.1646@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #660740 |
J. J. Lodder wrote: > > Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > > > > Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > >> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > >> > > >>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: > > >>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > > >>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg > > >>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed any > > >>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". > > >>>> > > >>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, > > >>>> when the Americans took over. > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that bullshit they > > >>>>> wrote. > > >>>> > > >>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, > > >>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. > > >>>> > > >>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. > > >>>> > > >>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood > > >>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, > > >>> > > >>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came actually > > >>> from Paris. > > >> > > >> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to write > > >> idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near Paris, yes, > > >> but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as one would guess. > > > > > > > > > Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through > > > Germany, before he went to Russia. > > > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. > > Yes, at. Unfortunately that is not the only issue.... > > Jan "Yes, at."???? any other issues? No, at. What at? dat at! who dat?? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 09:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lvgvm3F5028U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660732 |
Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > >> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >>> >>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg >>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed >>>>>> any >>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". >>>>> >>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, >>>>> when the Americans took over. >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that >>>>>> bullshit they >>>>>> wrote. >>>>> >>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, >>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. >>>>> >>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. >>>>> >>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood >>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, >>>> >>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came >>>> actually from Paris. >>> >>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to >>> write idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near >>> Paris, yes, but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as >>> one would guess. >> >> >> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through >> Germany, before he went to Russia. > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand English with ease. I can also speak, write and read English. (Not perfect, but quite good.) ... TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 10:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6793DD8E.6B99@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #660761 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > > >> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > >>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > >>> > >>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: > >>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg > >>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed > >>>>>> any > >>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". > >>>>> > >>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, > >>>>> when the Americans took over. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that > >>>>>> bullshit they > >>>>>> wrote. > >>>>> > >>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, > >>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. > >>>>> > >>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood > >>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, > >>>> > >>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came > >>>> actually from Paris. > >>> > >>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to > >>> write idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near > >>> Paris, yes, but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as > >>> one would guess. > >> > >> > >> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through > >> Germany, before he went to Russia. > > > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. > > English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. > > It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand > English with ease. > > I can also speak, write and read English. > > (Not perfect, but quite good.) > > ... > > TH In Brooklyn, English is a second language...forgetaboutit. bada bing, bada boom. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 20:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vn0qt7$2cmmo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660761 |
On 2025-01-24 08:01:24 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >> >>> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >>>> >>>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >>>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg >>>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed any >>>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". >>>>>> >>>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, >>>>>> when the Americans took over. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that bullshit they >>>>>>> wrote. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, >>>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood >>>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, >>>>> >>>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came actually >>>>> from Paris. >>>> >>>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to write >>>> idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near Paris, yes, >>>> but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as one would guess. >>> >>> >>> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through >>> Germany, before he went to Russia. >> >> OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. > > English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. > > It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand > English with ease. > > I can also speak, write and read English. Drs Dunning and Kruger, where are you? > > (Not perfect, but quite good.) > > ... > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 10:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6794aef2$0$28080$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #660761 |
Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > > > >> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > >>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > >>> > >>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: > >>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg > >>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed > >>>>>> any > >>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". > >>>>> > >>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, > >>>>> when the Americans took over. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that > >>>>>> bullshit they > >>>>>> wrote. > >>>>> > >>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, > >>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. > >>>>> > >>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood > >>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, > >>>> > >>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came > >>>> actually from Paris. > >>> > >>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to > >>> write idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near > >>> Paris, yes, but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as > >>> one would guess. > >> > >> > >> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through > >> Germany, before he went to Russia. > > > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. > > English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. > > It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand > English with ease. > > I can also speak, write and read English. > > (Not perfect, but quite good.) As good as Manuel's? You learned it from a book too? Jan
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| From | Python <jp@python.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 14:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9v5bN8mmISQeTB7rw88lG-4Iwt8@jntp> |
| In reply to | #660796 |
Le 25/01/2025 à 10:29, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a écrit : > Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >> > >> >> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> >>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >> >>> >> >>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >> >>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> >>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg >> >>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed >> >>>>>> any >> >>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, >> >>>>> when the Americans took over. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that >> >>>>>> bullshit they >> >>>>>> wrote. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, >> >>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood >> >>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that preceded it, >> >>>> >> >>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came >> >>>> actually from Paris. >> >>> >> >>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to >> >>> write idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near >> >>> Paris, yes, but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as >> >>> one would guess. >> >> >> >> >> >> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through >> >> Germany, before he went to Russia. >> > >> > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. >> >> English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. >> >> It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand >> English with ease. >> >> I can also speak, write and read English. >> >> (Not perfect, but quite good.) > > As good as Manuel's? > You learned it from a book too? > > Jan There is too much butter on those trays!
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 12:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vn3gne$31l2d$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660799 |
On 1/25/2025 6:01 AM, Python wrote: > Le 25/01/2025 à 10:29, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a écrit : >> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 14:12 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >>> > On 2025-01-23 10:54:23 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >>> > >> Am Mittwoch000022, 22.01.2025 um 09:19 schrieb Athel Cornish- >>> Bowden: >>> >>> On 2025-01-21 06:46:15 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am Montag000020, 20.01.2025 um 14:26 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >>> >>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>>>>>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a >>> man nameg >>> >>>>>>> 'Greg Hallett'. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who >>> attributed >>> >>>>>> any >>> >>>>>> and every political move in Iran to "the British". >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Not too bad, for the period 1913-1953, >>> >>>>> when the Americans took over. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Thanks to god they're dead and gone together with all that >>> >>>>>> bullshit they >>> >>>>>> wrote. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> The Mossadeq coup is real history, >>> >>>>> as is the engineering of it by the CIA. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Crap or not, the present mess in Iran cannot by understood >>> >>>>> without looking back to the history of colonialism that >>> preceded it, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would miss the French in this picture, because Khomeini came >>> >>>> actually from Paris. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bollocks. Unless this is just an illustration of your inabilty to >>> >>> write idiomatic English. Khomeini had taken political refuge near >>> >>> Paris, yes, but he didn't "come from Paris": he came from Iran, as >>> >>> one would guess. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Did you know, that Lenin came actually from Switzerland and through >>> >> Germany, before he went to Russia. >>> > > OK, so it's your lack of understanding of English that's at issue. >>> >>> English is a second language for me, but I understand it quit well. >>> >>> It's not perfect, of course. But most of the time I can understand >>> English with ease. >>> >>> I can also speak, write and read English. >>> >>> (Not perfect, but quite good.) >> >> As good as Manuel's? You learned it from a book too? >> >> Jan > > There is too much butter on those trays! > lol.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <677F7606.62CD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #660184 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill: > > >>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case > >>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea. > >>> > >>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea. > >>> > >> > >> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now. > >> > >> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict. > > > > Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now. > > Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war > with Russia- mostly very miserably. > > Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything > similar might happen again. > > Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if > possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'. > > The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine. > > This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt > countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob. > > At least I think so. The reason is, that I have lived some time together > with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several > thousand dollars. > > This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states. > > > >> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the > >> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single > >> button. > > > > More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which > > button to push. > > Possible, but highly unlikely. > > As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms. > > TH Lets not forget the Russians were the first to send a man in space. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <f8e1ojhr1l8s3nnt8vgjbrel6m5tduqlkq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660184 |
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 07:55:21 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case >>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea. >>>> >>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea. >>>> >>> >>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now. >>> >>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict. >> >> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now. > >Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war >with Russia- mostly very miserably. You're lying. Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon. It's Russia that's the aggressor. Russia's victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other major powers. Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself. >Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything >similar might happen again. Stop eating the mushrooms. >Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if >possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'. That's why they've stopped buying Russian energy, is it? >The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine. That explains why Germany has been the biggest source of military and financial aid in Europe. >This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt >countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob. You're describing Russia. >At least I think so. You seem to not think at all. >The reason is, that I have lived some time together >with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several >thousand dollars. So you got a hooker at a discount. So what. >This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states. Russia, yes, if you want an example of State failure, it is an archetypal example.e >>> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the >>> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single >>> button. >> >> More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which >> button to push. > >Possible, but highly unlikely. Considering the state of their other weapons: missiles that turn back and attack their own launch sites, others supposedly too fast to shoot down being shot down, air defenses that don't protect their oil refineries, artillery pieces or even their capitol, planes that fall out of the sky without a shot being fired, thousands of destroyed tanks, rusty rifles and dud ammo missiles on the front, Russian dead 3 to 1 against Ukraine ... yeah, we're all convinced of the efficacy of Moscow's weapons systems. >As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms. Arms? Perhaps. But those arms can't handle weapons.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luc0npF4rvdU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660199 |
Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 07:19 schrieb Governor Swill: >>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now. >> >> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war >> with Russia- mostly very miserably. > > You're lying. Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor > neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon. It's Russia that's the aggressor. Russia's > victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other > major powers. Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself. > >> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything >> similar might happen again. Germany and especially Berlin (where I live) looked like a place on the Moon after the War. Germans are scared by the bare possibility of anythings like this would happen again. > >> Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if >> possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'. > > That's why they've stopped buying Russian energy, is it? > >> The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine. > > That explains why Germany has been the biggest source of military and financial > aid in Europe. > >> This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt >> countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob. > > You're describing Russia. > >> At least I think so. > > You seem to not think at all. > >> The reason is, that I have lived some time together >> with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several >> thousand dollars. > > So you got a hooker at a discount. So what. Human trafficing is among the most profitable businesses on the planet. But it is also a terrible sin and all people involved deserve to go to hell. And the ukrainan mob was heavily engaged in human trafficing. ... TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tr16ojl9asmkcvp77r6ab8q1aj3k25t4gj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660207 |
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 08:32:09 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 07:19 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now. >>> >>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war >>> with Russia- mostly very miserably. >> >> You're lying. Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor >> neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon. It's Russia that's the aggressor. Russia's >> victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other >> major powers. Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself. >> >>> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything >>> similar might happen again. > >Germany and especially Berlin (where I live) looked like a place on the >Moon after the War. Like much of eastern Ukraine. >Germans are scared by the bare possibility of anythings like this would >happen again. There's no evidence of that. They seem to have no problem weaning themselves off Russian energy in record time and pouring tens of billions into Ukraine's economy and defense. It's Putin who's scared. <snip> >> So you got a hooker at a discount. So what. > > >Human trafficing is among the most profitable businesses on the planet. > >But it is also a terrible sin and all people involved deserve to go to hell. > >And the ukrainan mob was heavily engaged in human trafficing. You misspelled "Russian" again.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vlq8vv$2ebjo$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #660166 |
On 1/8/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 09:05 schrieb Siri Cruise: >> Thomas Heger wrote: >>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case >>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea. >> >> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea. >> > > Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now. > > Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict. > > I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the > Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single > button. > > TH Navy ships are getting obsolete too. No carrier or warship has any real defense against "Hoot" type torpedoes carrying small nuclear warheads. They cannot be intercepted. They're too fast, as fast as missiles but inside water! If it was not for Iranians' Hoot torpedoes, USA had attempted 100 times to invade Iran's southern shores. They know they cannot do it, and that's why it never happened. That means warships are these days just means to eat up your tax money. They don't have much war value.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luc0biF4rvdU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660198 |
Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 05:51 schrieb Physfitfreak: > On 1/8/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 09:05 schrieb Siri Cruise: >>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case >>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea. >>> >>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea. >>> >> >> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now. >> >> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict. >> >> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on >> the Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a >> single button. >> >> TH > > > Navy ships are getting obsolete too. No carrier or warship has any real > defense against "Hoot" type torpedoes carrying small nuclear warheads. > They cannot be intercepted. They're too fast, as fast as missiles but > inside water! > > If it was not for Iranians' Hoot torpedoes, USA had attempted 100 times > to invade Iran's southern shores. They know they cannot do it, and > that's why it never happened. > > That means warships are these days just means to eat up your tax money. > They don't have much war value. I would guess, that Russia has already means to destroy US-carriers from within Turkey or Syria and while they are still passing through the Dardanelles. It is therefor almost impossible to enter with US carriers into the Black Sea. And without carriers, the Nato has no good options for a starting position of fighter jets in a conflict with Russia. In the end, the Crimean peninsula is essential for Russian defense. That's why Russia will not give up the Krim and for no price. This in turn would make it impossible for the Ukraine to win in any meaningful way. TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlqiso$3t2lh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660206 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > I would guess, that Russia has already means to destroy > US-carriers from within Turkey Russia attacking the USA from inside Turkey. You are so silly. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lueofjFib4lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #660208 |
Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 08:40 schrieb Siri Cruise: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> I would guess, that Russia has already means to destroy US-carriers >> from within Turkey > > Russia attacking the USA from inside Turkey. > > You are so silly. > No, I meant this: a carrier is safe, because it is almost entirely impossible to get near enough to attack it. But if a carrier passes through the narrow Dardanelles or the Bosporus, it is impossible to defend, because it is impossible to hide something as big as a carrier in the middle of a busy city. Now it is perfectly thinkable, that Russian have already built facilities (like bunkers or similar) hidden there, which are able to emit rockets of some kind, which could sink a carrier. Now the carrier cannot use the usual means against rockets, unless they want to level half of Istanbul. In effect the carrier is defenseless against attacks from land 'sideways', because missiles from land have extremely short distances to travel, before they hit the carrier. Also automated guns used against approaching rockets are not very useful, because they would miss the rocket, but destroy Istanbul instead. But longer ranged missiles are also possible e.g. from Syria. Or how about mines or submarines? But lets assume, the carrier made its way to the Black Sea (despite some obstacles). What could the Russians do then? Well, they had several options, which are all dangerous. E.g. they could send missiles from the Krim. Or they send submarines or use something else, we have no imagination about. TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlugoj$ogg2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #660217 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > But if a carrier passes through the narrow Dardanelles or the > Bosporus, it is impossible to defend, because it is impossible to > hide something as big as a carrier in the middle of a busy city. > > Now it is perfectly thinkable, that Russian have already built > facilities (like bunkers or similar) hidden there, which are able > to emit rockets of some kind, which could sink a carrier. All of us know about the Russian bunkers hid in the Oakland hills. We just do not tell you about them. > But longer ranged missiles are also possible e.g. from Syria. We better expose the carriers quick before Syria finishes chasing the Russians away. > Or they send submarines or use something else, we have no > imagination about. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoAF_57th_Air_Base> -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6782F18A.5072@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #660236 |
Siri Cruise wrote: > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > But if a carrier passes through the narrow Dardanelles or the > > Bosporus, it is impossible to defend, because it is impossible to > > hide something as big as a carrier in the middle of a busy city. > > > > Now it is perfectly thinkable, that Russian have already built > > facilities (like bunkers or similar) hidden there, which are able > > to emit rockets of some kind, which could sink a carrier. > > All of us know about the Russian bunkers hid in the Oakland hills. > We just do not tell you about them. I thought they were fat ass women from Russia....is your mother russian? i wanna git in her ...bunker! no, i'm gonna cruise in her bunker.. she'll go bonkers! Whoa, your mamma got a fat ass siri! are you sirious? yeah man! Ho's you sister's bunker? i want some of dat! are you sirious? no, no, I'm just joking, i don't want no fat ass woman... is your sister hot? siriously? i want some of dat! is he on ticktwat? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bo26oj5a95dm818c2nq9ueafch3qfuea7q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #660236 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:26:57 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: >Thomas Heger wrote: > >> But if a carrier passes through the narrow Dardanelles or the >> Bosporus, it is impossible to defend, because it is impossible to >> hide something as big as a carrier in the middle of a busy city. >> >> Now it is perfectly thinkable, that Russian have already built >> facilities (like bunkers or similar) hidden there, which are able >> to emit rockets of some kind, which could sink a carrier. > >All of us know about the Russian bunkers hid in the Oakland hills. >We just do not tell you about them. > >> But longer ranged missiles are also possible e.g. from Syria. > >We better expose the carriers quick before Syria finishes chasing >the Russians away. <giggle> >> Or they send submarines or use something else, we have no >> imagination about. Perhaps the Kursk, Moskva or some other state of the art Russian sub. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoAF_57th_Air_Base> <G>
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