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Started byThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
First post2024-02-23 08:09 +0100
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  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-23 08:09 +0100
    Re: ? ? ? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-02-23 15:02 +0100
      Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-23 21:35 +0000
        Re: ? ? ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-24 07:40 -0500
          Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-24 13:07 +0000
          Re: ? ? ? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-02-24 16:38 +0100
            Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-24 16:55 +0000
          Re: ? ? ? Lénárt Szakács Keresztes <fn@jvre.hu> - 2024-02-24 19:58 +0000
            Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-02-24 14:34 -0600
              Re: ? ? ? Oga Shiganori Yoshikawa <nooos@nooor.jp> - 2024-02-24 23:22 +0000
                Re: ? ? ? pnalsing@gmail.com (palsing) - 2024-02-25 02:51 +0000
                  Re: ? ? ? Jon-Michael Zhong <ja@llcmz.cn> - 2024-02-25 16:06 +0000
                  Re: ? ? ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-25 14:56 -0500
                    Re: ? ? ? Wilbert Araújo <rrallri@jreia.pt> - 2024-02-25 20:29 +0000
                    Re: ? ? ? Kennith Félix Escárcega <egkeb@uefcrake.es> - 2024-02-25 20:49 +0000
        Re: ? ? ? tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-02-24 16:35 +0000
    Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-23 15:47 +0000
      Re: ? ? ? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-02-23 16:53 +0100
        Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-24 08:48 +0100
          Re: ? ? ? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-02-24 11:01 +0200
            Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-24 13:06 +0000
              Re: ? ? ? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-02-24 15:52 +0200
                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-02-25 13:30 +0100
              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-25 07:50 +0100
                Re: ? ? ? Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-02-25 15:42 +0000
                  Re: ? ? ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-02-25 21:36 +0100
                    Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-26 07:30 +0100
                      Re: ? ? ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-02-26 11:02 +0100
                      Re: ? ? ? Piotr Babchenko Bakulev <ptpet@ito.ru> - 2024-02-26 20:57 +0000
                        Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-27 07:48 +0100
                          Re: ? ? ? Huy Kántor Hegedűs <re@uushhes.hu> - 2024-02-28 22:22 +0000
                            Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-02-29 06:51 +0100
                              Re: ? ? ? tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-02-29 16:54 +0000
                                Re: ? ? ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-02-29 22:23 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-02-29 20:13 -0800
                                  Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-01 07:27 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-03-01 17:04 +0000
                                    Re: ? ? ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-01 20:47 +0100
                                      Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-01 23:44 +0100
                                      Re: ? ? ? tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-03-02 06:59 +0000
                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-03 08:04 +0100
                                      Re: ? ? ? Michelle Tatár Buzás <llihpm@selce.hu> - 2024-03-02 09:34 +0000
                                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-01 07:25 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-05 09:41 +0200
                                    Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-05 00:50 -0700
                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-05 00:59 -0700
                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-05 09:18 -0700
                                      Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-16 07:20 +0200
                                        Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-16 09:19 -0700
                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-19 08:17 +0200
                                Re: ? ? ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-01 14:24 -0500
                                  Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-01 23:41 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? Bennie Müller Madarász <llye@nuilrnm.hu> - 2024-03-02 00:33 +0000
                                Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-05 21:26 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? Boris Kuang She <ooo@rsisres.cn> - 2024-03-05 23:16 +0000
                                  Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-06 06:53 +0100
                                    Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-05 23:17 -0800
                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-05 23:30 -0800
                                        Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-05 23:44 -0800
                                          Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-06 00:00 -0800
                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-06 09:14 +0100
                                            Re: ? ? ? Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-06 08:57 -0500
                                              Re: ? ? ? Barros Romão <dko@rddda.pt> - 2024-03-06 14:25 +0000
                                                Re: ? ? ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-06 11:03 -0500
                                            Re: ? ? ? Rózsa  Szőllősi <nrme@rnaazj.hu> - 2024-03-06 14:07 +0000
                                            Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-06 16:29 +0100
                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-07 07:57 +0100
                                                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-07 15:41 +0100
                                                  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-08 09:12 +0100
                                                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-08 10:10 +0100
                                                      Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-09 08:20 +0100
                                                        Re: ? ? ? Bogdan Guleichik Balagul <gb@giioh.ru> - 2024-03-09 08:04 +0000
                                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-10 08:41 +0100
                                                            Re: ? ? ? Hania Pusztai Sebestyén <iuti@aapiz.hu> - 2024-03-10 08:03 +0000
                                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-15 08:14 +0100
                                                                Re: ? ? ? Connie Bairashevski Balashoff <ahhe@vks.ru> - 2024-03-15 11:19 +0000
                                                                  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-17 07:59 +0100
                                                                    Re: ? ? ? Chellos Leontarakis <akbsto@hs.gr> - 2024-03-17 09:05 +0000
                                                                      Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-21 07:37 +0100
                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Péter Juhász <spt@ebn.hu> - 2024-03-21 13:46 +0000
                                                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-23 08:03 +0100
                                                                            Re: ? ? ? TReena Pooja Kishan <iaa@trarin.in> - 2024-03-23 17:21 +0000
                                                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-25 07:57 +0100
                                                                                Re: ? ? ? Smith Matoke Yamamura <ma@maiur.jp> - 2024-03-25 18:03 +0000
                                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-10 11:35 +0100
                                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-12 09:30 +0100
                                                            Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-12 13:01 +0100
                                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-14 08:24 +0100
                                                                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-14 09:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-17 07:55 +0100
                                                                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-17 09:00 +0100
                                                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-17 13:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-17 21:42 +0100
                                                                          Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-17 16:10 -0700
                                                                            Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-18 06:59 +0100
                                                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-18 07:24 +0100
                                                                                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-18 07:54 +0100
                                                                                  Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-20 08:29 +0100
                                                                                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-20 15:22 +0100
                                                                                      Re: ? ? ? Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-03-20 16:10 +0100
                                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Elijah Katzuba Bakiev <evekj@bljja.ru> - 2024-03-20 22:34 +0000
                                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-21 10:08 +0100
                                                                                          Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-23 08:08 +0100
                                                                                            Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-23 10:29 +0100
                                                                                              Re: ? ? ? Zozrov Bakinov Mikhalev <ozoa@rioiro.ru> - 2024-03-23 19:40 +0000
                                                                                              Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-25 08:03 +0100
                                                                                                Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-25 08:17 +0100
                                                                                Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-18 07:24 -0700
                                                                                  Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-19 01:01 -0700
                                                                                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-19 13:16 +0100
                                                                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-19 11:58 -0700
                                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-19 20:33 +0100
                                                                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-19 12:09 -0700
                                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-19 20:35 +0100
                                                                                          Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-19 23:22 -0700
                                                                                            Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-20 14:53 +0100
                                                                Re: ? ? ? Osiris Moy <yoo@mrssiyr.cn> - 2024-03-14 10:09 +0000
                                          Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-03-06 12:42 -0600
                                            Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-06 12:58 -0800
                                              Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-06 13:02 -0800
                                                Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-06 13:05 -0800
                                                  Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-06 13:09 -0800
                                                    Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-03-06 15:46 -0600
                                      Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-06 16:26 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-06 19:42 +0100
                                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-06 22:08 +0100
                              Re: ? ? ? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-02-29 09:22 -0800
                                Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-02-29 12:23 -0600
                              Re: ? ? ? Vinson Makricosta Stamatelos <nnnncv@sk.gr> - 2024-02-29 20:39 +0000
                                Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-02-29 15:27 -0600
                              Re: ? ? ? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2024-03-21 13:05 +0000
                                Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-23 08:18 +0100
                                  Re: ? ? ? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2024-03-23 10:24 +0000
                                    Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 07:19 +0000
                                      Re: ? ? ? Thean Nogushi Hatoyama <nllah@eeele.jp> - 2024-03-26 12:05 +0000
                                        Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 23:53 +0000
                                          Re: ? ? ? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-27 09:18 +0100
                                            Re: ? ? ? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-03-27 12:43 +0100
                                            Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 13:00 +0000
                                            Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 13:01 +0000
                                          Re: ? ? ? Jed László Barabás <sx@sajd.hu> - 2024-03-27 11:24 +0000
                                            Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 12:47 +0000
                                              Re: ? ? ? Thaddeus Horiatis Demetrious <sit@ssdiet.gr> - 2024-03-27 14:56 +0000
                                                Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 23:02 +0000
                                                  Re: ? ? ? Yasmani Hasekura <asna@unnsmahua.jp> - 2024-03-28 02:38 +0000
                                                    Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 03:14 +0000
                                                      Re: ? ? ? Leland Behtenev Basov <ene@thdnt.ru> - 2024-03-28 04:02 +0000
                                                        Re: ? ? ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 04:35 +0000
                                                        Re: ? ? ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 21:49 -0700
                                    Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 23:49 +0000
                                      Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-28 07:14 +0100
                                        Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 07:09 +0000
                                          Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-30 08:54 +0100
                                            Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 10:38 +0000
                                              Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-02 07:56 +0200
                                                Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 00:07 -0700
                                                  Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-03 08:03 +0200
                                                    Re: Getting there at last... Yusney Turaev Momotov <tnoyn@ou.ru> - 2024-04-03 06:53 +0000
                                                    Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-04 02:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-05 09:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-06 00:07 +0000
                                                          Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-06 09:03 +0200
                                                            Re: Getting there at last... Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-04-06 13:54 +0200
                                                            Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-06 12:11 -0700
                                                              Re: Getting there at last... Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-06 12:51 -0700
                                                                Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-06 16:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-06 15:03 -0700
                                                                Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-06 16:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-07 01:25 +0000
                                                              Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-07 21:03 +0200
                                                                Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-08 01:36 +0000
                                                Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 07:38 +0000
                                                  Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 10:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Getting there at last... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 11:31 -0700
                                                      Re: Getting there at last... Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 00:16 +0000
                                                        Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-03 00:38 -0700
                                                          Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-03 01:02 -0700
                                                            Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-03 22:58 -0700
                                                              Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-04 11:11 -0700
                                                              Re: Getting there at last... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-04-08 20:08 +0200
                                                                Re: Getting there at last... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-08 21:19 -0700
                                  Re: ? ? ? Yatzyk Trampotova <ezyey@kynyrt.ru> - 2024-03-23 17:39 +0000
                                    Re: ? ? ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-25 08:06 +0100
                                      Re: ? ? ? Evasio Alexandropoulos <ouep@seood.gr> - 2024-03-25 17:48 +0000
                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-26 22:30 -0700
                                        Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-27 16:31 -0700
                                          Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-27 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-29 17:05 -0700
                                              Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-31 12:27 -0700
                                                Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-31 14:46 -0700
                                                  Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-01 10:15 -0700
                                                    Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-01 21:36 -0700
                                                      Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 00:15 -0700
                                                        Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 09:52 -0700
                                                          Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-02 10:16 -0700
                                                            Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 12:26 -0700
                                                              Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-02 12:48 -0700
                                                                Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-03 23:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-04 05:57 -0700
                                                                    Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-04 09:00 -0700
                                                                      Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-04 10:45 -0700
                                                                        Re: ? ? ? Colin Mcdonald <mna@aincmic.uk> - 2024-04-04 22:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-04 16:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-05 00:45 -0700
                                                                          Re: ? ? ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-05 01:20 -0700
                                                                          Re: ? ? ? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-04-05 06:24 -0700
                    Re: ? ? ? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-02-26 13:36 +0100
                  Re: ? ? ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-27 09:27 -0500
                Re: ? ? ? Maria Komáromi Forgács <vcro@fmma.hu> - 2024-02-25 17:10 +0000
                  Re: ? ? ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-02-25 15:47 -0600
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#652780 — Re: Getting there at last...

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-08 21:19 -0700
SubjectRe: Getting there at last...
Message-ID<6614C1B9.774E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652777
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 04.04.2024 um 07:58 schrieb The Starmaker:
> ...
> >>
> > While Albert Einstein was busy designing new bombs for the military, he
> > started
> > working on his 'Grand Unified theory' and told the military, a ship can
> > be made to disapear and
> > reappear somewhere else. But of course he needs money to finish his
> > grand unified theiroy.
> >
> > He always figured out how to 'attach' his theories to the military war
> > department.
> >
> > Didn't Albert Einstein design airplanes for the Germans in Germany?
> >
> 
> As far as I know he didn't.


https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol6-doc/430

> 
> But he worked together with Leo Szillard in Berlin and Leo Szillard is
> assumed to be the 'father' of the atomic bomb.
> 
> So, I assume, that Albert Einstein was at least an uncle.
> 
> TH



"He is the father" of the atom bomb, says Beser, who is the grandson of the only U.S. serviceman aboard both planes that carried the atomic bombs to Japan.


https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1680282648881819648/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1758508135550222422/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1491839255168966666





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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#652318

FromYatzyk Trampotova <ezyey@kynyrt.ru>
Date2024-03-23 17:39 +0000
Message-ID<utn453$2jes1$3@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#652312
Thomas Heger wrote:

>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
>>
>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
>> talking about entropy.
> 
> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> transport of heated media (convection)
> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> transported by radiation.

totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.

 𝗠𝗼𝘀𝗰𝗼𝘄_𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸_𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀_𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗼_𝗳𝗹𝗲𝗲_𝘁𝗼_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲_–_𝗙𝗦𝗕
Russia’s domestic security service has reported that four assailants were 
detained in Bryansk Region near the border 
https://r%74.com/russia/594771-fsb-moscow-terrorists-flee-ukraine/

Anybody wandered why "Islamic State" has not shot single bullet aiming at 
Israel?

Faux Noise is already claiming it was ISIS. Anything to deflect from the 
Ukrainian Nazis. We shall see. This was horrifying.

If you haven't noticed it already, I will spell it out for you. ISIS is a 
creation and under orders by ISrael and USA.

isis is aka al quelda, aka controlled by cia's middle east branch office.

Ukraine learns terrorism tactics from the u.s state department's cia 
branch, and using ANY mercenaries they can find, to do the dirty job 
inside russia. This is not the first attempt at Terrorism against russia 
by cia,mi6 and also by ukraine.

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#652365

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2024-03-25 08:06 +0100
Message-ID<l6clpiFclo2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#652318
Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
>>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
>>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
>>>
>>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
>>> talking about entropy.
>>
>> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
>> transport of heated media (convection)
>> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
>> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
>> transported by radiation.
>
> totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.

Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.

We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.


...

TH

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#652376

FromEvasio Alexandropoulos <ouep@seood.gr>
Date2024-03-25 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<utsddq$34ssg$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#652365
Thomas Heger wrote:

>>> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
>>> transported by radiation.
>>
>> totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> 
> Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time
> move.

yet again, the Entropy "moves", not the time, lol. Here's more for you to 
undrestand covid governments, wanting you killed with vaccines.

 𝗪𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗵𝗮𝘀_𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗱_𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁_𝗠𝗼𝘀𝗰𝗼𝘄_𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁_𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸_–_𝗕𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘀𝗵_𝗠𝗣
Washington and London were too quick to pin the blame on Islamists, George 
Galloway has said
https://www.r%74.com/news/594888-west-lie-moscow-terrorist-attack/
“When the US and the UK and others swiftly tried to reassure me that it 
was only ISIS [that] carried out this mass murder in Moscow, I knew 
automatically that they were lying,” Galloway said.

He then pointed to what he called suspicious and “unexplained” activities 
by some Western politicians and officials, including Kirby’s statement.
READ MORE: Three more suspects in Moscow terrorist attack arrested

The British lawmaker drew particular attention to the fact that the US 
official had confirmed that Washington had called on its citizens to stay 
away from crowded places in Moscow as recently as the beginning of March

March 7, warning that “extremists” were planning an imminent attack in 
Moscow. He still denied that it had anything to do with last Friday’s 
assault. “I don’t think that was related to this specific attack,” he 
said.

Another episode mentioned by Galloway involved US Undersecretary of State 
for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland, who promised some “nice surprises 
on the battlefield” for Moscow this year. “Ukraine will make some very 
strong success,” she said in January, without providing any further 
comments on the issue

Galloway cited these facts as “pieces of evidence” suggesting that “the 
US, its NATO allies and their proxy servant… [the] state of Ukraine… were 
in fact responsible for this mass murder.”

Biden when asked said NS2 will be gone. And shortly after N S 2 was 
destroyed. Nuland not asked, said Russia is in for a surprise and shortly 
after the shooting of 137 people happens. Wow, The nastier they are the 
better they seem to be at foreseeing the future

What is suspicious is that the attackers were trying to escape to Ukraine 
which's border is well protected not to Estonia ,Latvia or Belarus.

About time Russia closes down the American embassy like anywhere else it's 
a den of thieves and murderers

Victoria Nuland steps aside, Barrack Hussein Obama visits London, and ISIS 
makes a Historic Comeback. That's a lot of coincidences! Only Genocide 
Joe's loyal supporters/donors and voters could believe that!

I have it confirmed that western and Israelis are behind behind the whole 
thing, isis = Israeli security intelligence services

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#652414

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-26 22:30 -0700
Message-ID<6603AF12.5708@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652365
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> >>>
> >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> >>> talking about entropy.
> >>
> >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> >> transport of heated media (convection)
> >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> >> transported by radiation.
> >
> > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> 
> Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> 
> We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> 
> ...
> 
> TH

I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...

(especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)


So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
a mechanical shadow...


From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
them the 'shadow' is not a real world.

Yous people are in a matrix.


The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.

The clock is displaying...shadows. 

Math are shadows.


Yous people are in a matrix.


You're prisoners of shadows.


Mathematical objects are shadows...

leave the cave...

leave the matrix..






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652445

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-27 16:31 -0700
Message-ID<6604AC3B.77D5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652414
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > >>>
> > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > >>> talking about entropy.
> > >>
> > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > >> transported by radiation.
> > >
> > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> >
> > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> >
> > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > TH
> 
> I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> 
> (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> 
> So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> a mechanical shadow...
> 
> From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> 
> Yous people are in a matrix.
> 
> The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> 
> The clock is displaying...shadows.
> 
> Math are shadows.
> 
> Yous people are in a matrix.
> 
> You're prisoners of shadows.
> 
> Mathematical objects are shadows...
> 
> leave the cave...
> 
> leave the matrix..

notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
sundials...


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652447

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-27 17:26 -0700
Message-ID<6604B933.6C7F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652445
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > >
> > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > >
> > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > >
> > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > TH
> >
> > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> >
> > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> >
> > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > a mechanical shadow...
> >
> > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> >
> > Yous people are in a matrix.
> >
> > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> >
> > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> >
> > Math are shadows.
> >
> > Yous people are in a matrix.
> >
> > You're prisoners of shadows.
> >
> > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> >
> > leave the cave...
> >
> > leave the matrix..
> 
> notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> sundials...
> 

Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#652540

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-29 17:05 -0700
Message-ID<66075733.3803@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652447
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > >
> > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > >
> > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > >
> > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > TH
> > >
> > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > >
> > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > >
> > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > a mechanical shadow...
> > >
> > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > >
> > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > >
> > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > >
> > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > >
> > > Math are shadows.
> > >
> > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > >
> > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > >
> > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > >
> > > leave the cave...
> > >
> > > leave the matrix..
> >
> > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > sundials...
> >
> 
> Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"


I mean, I just don't understand...


Plato looks at the shadows and
says those shadows are not reality, 
while he sees everyone using the shadows
on sundials for measuring Time.

On the other side of his mouth he
claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.

The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!


Are the numbers real and the shadows not..

Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...

or are the shadows and numbers are real?

The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.

Numbers don't exist out there..

and the shadows are not physical objects.

So, shadows tell you the time?

Those hands on the clock are
mechanical shadows..

yous still using sundials
to measure time with shadows...

and imaginary numbers.


YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!






'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
 sundials...'
















































-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652589

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-31 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<6609B924.23B4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652540
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > TH
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > >
> > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > >
> > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > >
> > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > >
> > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > >
> > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > >
> > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > >
> > > > Math are shadows.
> > > >
> > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > >
> > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > >
> > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > >
> > > > leave the cave...
> > > >
> > > > leave the matrix..
> > >
> > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > sundials...
> > >
> >
> > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> 
> I mean, I just don't understand...
> 
> Plato looks at the shadows and
> says those shadows are not reality,
> while he sees everyone using the shadows
> on sundials for measuring Time.
> 
> On the other side of his mouth he
> claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> 
> The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> 
> Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> 
> Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> 
> or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> 
> The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> 
> Numbers don't exist out there..
> 
> and the shadows are not physical objects.
> 
> So, shadows tell you the time?
> 
> Those hands on the clock are
> mechanical shadows..
> 
> yous still using sundials
> to measure time with shadows...
> 
> and imaginary numbers.
> 
> YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> 
> 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
>  sundials...'
> 


Now, you take the clock apart..

first you remove the mechanical shadows
what you call hands on the clock
actually high tech shadows...

then you remove the numbers from
the face of the clock...
numbers don't exist out there..


Now what? You take apart the
actusl cover and what do you see...

a Machine!

No different than removing
that warm smile from a 
womans' face and seeing behind it..

a Machine!


The clock and the woman
are illusions.

'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.


So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??

Is Time an illusion too!


It's just the Sun's shadow.


Does the shadow...tick?

Does the shadow make sudden
tik tok movements?






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652595

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-03-31 14:46 -0700
Message-ID<6609D9CD.24AE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652589
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TH
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > >
> > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > >
> > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > >
> > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > >
> > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > >
> > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > >
> > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > >
> > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > >
> > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > sundials...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> >
> > I mean, I just don't understand...
> >
> > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > says those shadows are not reality,
> > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > on sundials for measuring Time.
> >
> > On the other side of his mouth he
> > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> >
> > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> >
> > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> >
> > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> >
> > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> >
> > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> >
> > Numbers don't exist out there..
> >
> > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> >
> > So, shadows tell you the time?
> >
> > Those hands on the clock are
> > mechanical shadows..
> >
> > yous still using sundials
> > to measure time with shadows...
> >
> > and imaginary numbers.
> >
> > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> >
> > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> >  sundials...'
> >
> 
> Now, you take the clock apart..
> 
> first you remove the mechanical shadows
> what you call hands on the clock
> actually high tech shadows...
> 
> then you remove the numbers from
> the face of the clock...
> numbers don't exist out there..
> 
> Now what? You take apart the
> actusl cover and what do you see...
> 
> a Machine!
> 
> No different than removing
> that warm smile from a
> womans' face and seeing behind it..
> 
> a Machine!
> 
> The clock and the woman
> are illusions.
> 
> 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> 
> So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> 
> Is Time an illusion too!
> 
> It's just the Sun's shadow.
> 
> Does the shadow...tick?
> 
> Does the shadow make sudden
> tik tok movements?


Keep in mind, I understand you 
need these illusions to survive..
you need the shadows
the imaginary numbers
and especially..
her warm smile...

otherwise you would be
seeing not her..but a monster.

But don't tell me the
universe is mathematical, because
you insult my intelligence.

Buy her some lipstick.

Tell her how pretty she looks
while she mocks you with her smile.

She is just a ...machine.
(with lipstick)

Machines need illusions too!







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652607

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-01 10:15 -0700
Message-ID<660AEBCA.74B7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652595
I mean, come on..let's be real here...

a clock does not detect time

it doesn't even measure the flow of time

or the direction of time

or the arrow of time

(or which way is it going?)

okay, i got the bow of time, which
way am i pointing the arrow of time?

just follow the arrow.


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > >
> > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > sundials...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > >
> > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > >
> > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > >
> > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > >
> > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > >
> > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > >
> > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > >
> > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > >
> > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > >
> > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > >
> > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > >
> > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > >
> > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > mechanical shadows..
> > >
> > > yous still using sundials
> > > to measure time with shadows...
> > >
> > > and imaginary numbers.
> > >
> > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > >
> > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > >  sundials...'
> > >
> >
> > Now, you take the clock apart..
> >
> > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > what you call hands on the clock
> > actually high tech shadows...
> >
> > then you remove the numbers from
> > the face of the clock...
> > numbers don't exist out there..
> >
> > Now what? You take apart the
> > actusl cover and what do you see...
> >
> > a Machine!
> >
> > No different than removing
> > that warm smile from a
> > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> >
> > a Machine!
> >
> > The clock and the woman
> > are illusions.
> >
> > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> >
> > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> >
> > Is Time an illusion too!
> >
> > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> >
> > Does the shadow...tick?
> >
> > Does the shadow make sudden
> > tik tok movements?
> 
> Keep in mind, I understand you
> need these illusions to survive..
> you need the shadows
> the imaginary numbers
> and especially..
> her warm smile...
> 
> otherwise you would be
> seeing not her..but a monster.
> 
> But don't tell me the
> universe is mathematical, because
> you insult my intelligence.
> 
> Buy her some lipstick.
> 
> Tell her how pretty she looks
> while she mocks you with her smile.
> 
> She is just a ...machine.
> (with lipstick)
> 
> Machines need illusions too!
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652617

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-01 21:36 -0700
Message-ID<660B8B5A.7FBF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652607
Wait a minute, wait a minute...are 
you trying to tell
me that a sundial is only a devise
that ...follows the sun?





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> I mean, come on..let's be real here...
> 
> a clock does not detect time
> 
> it doesn't even measure the flow of time
> 
> or the direction of time
> 
> or the arrow of time
> 
> (or which way is it going?)
> 
> okay, i got the bow of time, which
> way am i pointing the arrow of time?
> 
> just follow the arrow.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > TH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > > sundials...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > > >
> > > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > > >
> > > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > > >
> > > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > > >
> > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > > >
> > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > > >
> > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > > >
> > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > > >
> > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > > >
> > > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > > >
> > > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > > >
> > > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > > >
> > > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > > mechanical shadows..
> > > >
> > > > yous still using sundials
> > > > to measure time with shadows...
> > > >
> > > > and imaginary numbers.
> > > >
> > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > > >
> > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > >  sundials...'
> > > >
> > >
> > > Now, you take the clock apart..
> > >
> > > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > > what you call hands on the clock
> > > actually high tech shadows...
> > >
> > > then you remove the numbers from
> > > the face of the clock...
> > > numbers don't exist out there..
> > >
> > > Now what? You take apart the
> > > actusl cover and what do you see...
> > >
> > > a Machine!
> > >
> > > No different than removing
> > > that warm smile from a
> > > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> > >
> > > a Machine!
> > >
> > > The clock and the woman
> > > are illusions.
> > >
> > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> > >
> > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> > >
> > > Is Time an illusion too!
> > >
> > > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> > >
> > > Does the shadow...tick?
> > >
> > > Does the shadow make sudden
> > > tik tok movements?
> >
> > Keep in mind, I understand you
> > need these illusions to survive..
> > you need the shadows
> > the imaginary numbers
> > and especially..
> > her warm smile...
> >
> > otherwise you would be
> > seeing not her..but a monster.
> >
> > But don't tell me the
> > universe is mathematical, because
> > you insult my intelligence.
> >
> > Buy her some lipstick.
> >
> > Tell her how pretty she looks
> > while she mocks you with her smile.
> >
> > She is just a ...machine.
> > (with lipstick)
> >
> > Machines need illusions too!
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652620

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-02 00:15 -0700
Message-ID<660BB099.CE8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652617
ok, a sundial is for dialing the sun.


"Hi Sun, where are you?"


"Well, at 12:pm I was here and it's now 3:pm so I'm over here.


a sundial is for making phone calls to the Sun.


"I'm over here now."


You know, you make a phonecall and you ask your girlfriend "Where are
you at?"


She says, "I'm over here!"

You say, "When are you coming over here?"


She sez..."I'll be there by sundown."


Now you gotta call the sun...





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Wait a minute, wait a minute...are
> you trying to tell
> me that a sundial is only a devise
> that ...follows the sun?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > I mean, come on..let's be real here...
> >
> > a clock does not detect time
> >
> > it doesn't even measure the flow of time
> >
> > or the direction of time
> >
> > or the arrow of time
> >
> > (or which way is it going?)
> >
> > okay, i got the bow of time, which
> > way am i pointing the arrow of time?
> >
> > just follow the arrow.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > TH
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > > > sundials...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > > > >
> > > > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > > > >
> > > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > > > >
> > > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > > > >
> > > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > > > >
> > > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > > > >
> > > > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > > > >
> > > > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > > > mechanical shadows..
> > > > >
> > > > > yous still using sundials
> > > > > to measure time with shadows...
> > > > >
> > > > > and imaginary numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > >  sundials...'
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, you take the clock apart..
> > > >
> > > > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > > > what you call hands on the clock
> > > > actually high tech shadows...
> > > >
> > > > then you remove the numbers from
> > > > the face of the clock...
> > > > numbers don't exist out there..
> > > >
> > > > Now what? You take apart the
> > > > actusl cover and what do you see...
> > > >
> > > > a Machine!
> > > >
> > > > No different than removing
> > > > that warm smile from a
> > > > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> > > >
> > > > a Machine!
> > > >
> > > > The clock and the woman
> > > > are illusions.
> > > >
> > > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> > > >
> > > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> > > >
> > > > Is Time an illusion too!
> > > >
> > > > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> > > >
> > > > Does the shadow...tick?
> > > >
> > > > Does the shadow make sudden
> > > > tik tok movements?
> > >
> > > Keep in mind, I understand you
> > > need these illusions to survive..
> > > you need the shadows
> > > the imaginary numbers
> > > and especially..
> > > her warm smile...
> > >
> > > otherwise you would be
> > > seeing not her..but a monster.
> > >
> > > But don't tell me the
> > > universe is mathematical, because
> > > you insult my intelligence.
> > >
> > > Buy her some lipstick.
> > >
> > > Tell her how pretty she looks
> > > while she mocks you with her smile.
> > >
> > > She is just a ...machine.
> > > (with lipstick)
> > >
> > > Machines need illusions too!
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#652639

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-02 09:52 -0700
Message-ID<660C37CE.3209@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652620
the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> ok, a sundial is for dialing the sun.
> 
> "Hi Sun, where are you?"
> 
> "Well, at 12:pm I was here and it's now 3:pm so I'm over here.
> 
> a sundial is for making phone calls to the Sun.
> 
> "I'm over here now."
> 
> You know, you make a phonecall and you ask your girlfriend "Where are
> you at?"
> 
> She says, "I'm over here!"
> 
> You say, "When are you coming over here?"
> 
> She sez..."I'll be there by sundown."
> 
> Now you gotta call the sun...
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Wait a minute, wait a minute...are
> > you trying to tell
> > me that a sundial is only a devise
> > that ...follows the sun?
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean, come on..let's be real here...
> > >
> > > a clock does not detect time
> > >
> > > it doesn't even measure the flow of time
> > >
> > > or the direction of time
> > >
> > > or the arrow of time
> > >
> > > (or which way is it going?)
> > >
> > > okay, i got the bow of time, which
> > > way am i pointing the arrow of time?
> > >
> > > just follow the arrow.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > TH
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > > > > sundials...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > > > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > > > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > > > > mechanical shadows..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yous still using sundials
> > > > > > to measure time with shadows...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and imaginary numbers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > >  sundials...'
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, you take the clock apart..
> > > > >
> > > > > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > > > > what you call hands on the clock
> > > > > actually high tech shadows...
> > > > >
> > > > > then you remove the numbers from
> > > > > the face of the clock...
> > > > > numbers don't exist out there..
> > > > >
> > > > > Now what? You take apart the
> > > > > actusl cover and what do you see...
> > > > >
> > > > > a Machine!
> > > > >
> > > > > No different than removing
> > > > > that warm smile from a
> > > > > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> > > > >
> > > > > a Machine!
> > > > >
> > > > > The clock and the woman
> > > > > are illusions.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> > > > >
> > > > > Is Time an illusion too!
> > > > >
> > > > > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the shadow...tick?
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the shadow make sudden
> > > > > tik tok movements?
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind, I understand you
> > > > need these illusions to survive..
> > > > you need the shadows
> > > > the imaginary numbers
> > > > and especially..
> > > > her warm smile...
> > > >
> > > > otherwise you would be
> > > > seeing not her..but a monster.
> > > >
> > > > But don't tell me the
> > > > universe is mathematical, because
> > > > you insult my intelligence.
> > > >
> > > > Buy her some lipstick.
> > > >
> > > > Tell her how pretty she looks
> > > > while she mocks you with her smile.
> > > >
> > > > She is just a ...machine.
> > > > (with lipstick)
> > > >
> > > > Machines need illusions too!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#652641

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2024-04-02 10:16 -0700
Message-ID<k3rtdk-fib71.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#652639
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.

That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.

a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
or condition exists or continues


b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
succeed one another from past through present to future


< snip old crap >

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#652647

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-02 12:26 -0700
Message-ID<660C5BF3.1FEE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652641
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.
> 
> That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.
> 
> a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
> or condition exists or continues
> 
> b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
> succeed one another from past through present to future
> 
> < snip old crap >


The operative word is "detect" not time.




de·tect
/d?'tek(t)/
verb
discover or identify the presence or existence of.
to discover the true character of
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+detect


identify the presence of time.


identify the existence of time.


The fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect, identify, the presence and existence of  ...time.











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#652648

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2024-04-02 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<514udk-mcm71.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#652647
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.
>> 
>> That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.
>> 
>> a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
>> or condition exists or continues
>> 
>> b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
>> succeed one another from past through present to future
>> 
>> < snip old crap >
> 
> 
> The operative word is "detect" not time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> de·tect
> /d?'tek(t)/
> verb
> discover or identify the presence or existence of.
> to discover the true character of
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+detect
> 
> 
> identify the presence of time.
> 
> 
> identify the existence of time.
> 
> 
> The fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect, identify, the presence and existence of  ...time.

The fact is what you post is childish, ignorant twaddle.

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#652675

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-03 23:03 -0700
Message-ID<660E42C6.7993@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652648
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.
> >>
> >> That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.
> >>
> >> a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
> >> or condition exists or continues
> >>
> >> b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
> >> succeed one another from past through present to future
> >>
> >> < snip old crap >
> >
> >
> > The operative word is "detect" not time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > de·tect
> > /d?'tek(t)/
> > verb
> > discover or identify the presence or existence of.
> > to discover the true character of
> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+detect
> >
> >
> > identify the presence of time.
> >
> >
> > identify the existence of time.
> >
> >
> > The fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect, identify, the presence and existence of  ...time.
> 
> The fact is what you post is childish, ignorant twaddle.


I was using 3rd grade reading levels so that anyone can understand...but
in your case I might need to use...kindergarten.

twaddle
twaddle
twaddle

see spot run


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#652678

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2024-04-04 05:57 -0700
Message-ID<0nk2ek-pamc1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#652675
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > Jim Pennino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.
>> >>
>> >> That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.
>> >>
>> >> a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
>> >> or condition exists or continues
>> >>
>> >> b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
>> >> succeed one another from past through present to future
>> >>
>> >> < snip old crap >
>> >
>> >
>> > The operative word is "detect" not time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > de·tect
>> > /d?'tek(t)/
>> > verb
>> > discover or identify the presence or existence of.
>> > to discover the true character of
>> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+detect
>> >
>> >
>> > identify the presence of time.
>> >
>> >
>> > identify the existence of time.
>> >
>> >
>> > The fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect, identify, the presence and existence of  ...time.
>> 
>> The fact is what you post is childish, ignorant twaddle.
> 
> 
> I was using 3rd grade reading levels so that anyone can understand...but

Everything you post is at best 3rd grade level.

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#652682

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-04-04 09:00 -0700
Message-ID<660ECE8C.2684@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#652678
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> > the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time.
> >> >>
> >> >> That depends on which definition of the word time you are using.
> >> >>
> >> >> a : the measured or measurable period during which an action, process,
> >> >> or condition exists or continues
> >> >>
> >> >> b : a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of events which
> >> >> succeed one another from past through present to future
> >> >>
> >> >> < snip old crap >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The operative word is "detect" not time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > de·tect
> >> > /d?'tek(t)/
> >> > verb
> >> > discover or identify the presence or existence of.
> >> > to discover the true character of
> >> > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+detect
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > identify the presence of time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > identify the existence of time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect, identify, the presence and existence of  ...time.
> >>
> >> The fact is what you post is childish, ignorant twaddle.
> >
> >
> > I was using 3rd grade reading levels so that anyone can understand...but
> 
> Everything you post is at best 3rd grade level.


All I'm sayin is a sundial is not a clock, it's a telephone.






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