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climate change

Started bycarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
First post2022-12-21 14:19 -0800
Last post2023-01-13 16:12 -0800
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  climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 14:19 -0800
    Re: climate change Michelle Africano <nccr@amenica.he> - 2022-12-21 22:45 +0000
    Re: climate change Michelle Africano <nccr@amenica.he> - 2022-12-21 22:54 +0000
      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 09:49 -0800
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 10:07 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 11:08 -0800
    Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 12:59 -0800
      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 13:05 -0800
        Re: climate change Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-22 22:04 +0000
        Re: climate change Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-22 22:14 +0000
        Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 14:26 -0800
          Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 18:38 -0800
            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 19:03 -0800
              Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-23 11:10 -0800
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 13:48 -0800
                  Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-23 15:30 -0800
                    Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 20:25 -0800
                      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-27 12:12 -0800
                        Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-27 15:41 -0800
                          Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-27 16:40 -0800
                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-27 21:10 -0600
                            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-28 12:24 -0800
                              Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:33 +0100
                                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 00:44 -0800
                                  Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 10:00 +0100
                      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 07:56 +0100
                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 09:01 +0100
                          Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-29 16:38 -0800
                            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-29 16:40 -0800
                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-29 18:54 -0600
                              Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-30 11:14 +0100
                                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 10:57 -0600
                                  Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 10:48 -0800
                                    Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:01 -0800
                                      Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:15 -0800
                                        Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:57 -0800
                                          Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 13:03 -0800
                                            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 14:40 -0800
                                              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 15:25 -0800
                                                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 19:02 -0600
                                        Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 18:58 -0600
                                      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:09 +0100
                                  Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:22 +0100
                                    Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-31 15:42 -0600
                                      Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 14:26 -0800
                                        Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 14:43 -0800
                                          Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 15:42 -0800
                                            Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 09:43 +0100
                                            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-01 16:49 -0800
                                      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 09:28 +0100
                                        Re: climate change Doodnath Sarti <ttha@dnhnahan.nh> - 2023-01-01 08:49 +0000
                                          Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 06:21 -0600
                                            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 15:56 -0800
                                              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:02 -0800
                                                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:19 -0800
                                                  Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 17:10 -0800
                                                    Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 17:56 -0800
                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-02 03:36 -0500
                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:36 +0100
                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 12:24 -0800
                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 12:27 -0800
                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:30 -0800
                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:46 -0800
                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:48 -0800
                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 17:14 -0800
                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 17:29 -0800
                                                                  Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 18:13 -0800
                                                                    Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-04 10:12 +0100
                                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 12:59 -0500
                                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-05 07:40 +0100
                                                              Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-04 11:17 -0800
                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 11:49 -0800
                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 14:40 -0800
                                                                  Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-05 14:40 -0800
                                                          Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 12:51 -0500
                                                          Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-04 23:06 -0600
                                                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-05 00:13 -0600
                                                            Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-05 08:01 +0100
                                                              Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-05 11:47 -0600
                                                                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 10:17 -0800
                                                                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-05 16:33 -0600
                                                                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-07 09:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:21 -0800
                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:47 -0800
                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:58 -0800
                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 16:04 -0800
                                                                        Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-07 18:31 -0800
                                                                  Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-08 13:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 15:16 -0800
                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 16:49 -0800
                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 17:09 -0800
                                                                    Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-09 08:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-09 08:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-09 10:11 -0800
                                                                          Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-09 18:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-09 12:47 -0800
                                                                          Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-09 22:18 -0800
                                                                          Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 15:49 +0100
                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 10:58 -0800
                                                                              Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 21:45 +0100
                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 12:58 -0800
                                                                                  Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 22:12 +0100
                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 14:26 -0800
                                                                                    Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 21:56 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-10 22:17 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-10 22:32 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 01:34 -0500
                                                                                        Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 22:49 -0800
                                                                                          Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 12:44 -0500
                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:53 -0800
                                                                                            Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 11:54 -0800
                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 12:03 -0800
                                                                                                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 12:39 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:21 -0800
                                                                                                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 22:06 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:20 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:23 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-12 10:23 +0100
                                                                                                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:46 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 00:58 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 16:53 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:07 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 15:02 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 15:09 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 17:57 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 16:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 18:32 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:23 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:31 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:06 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:12 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 19:20 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:39 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 20:44 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:52 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 04:06 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 01:20 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 12:04 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 10:20 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:11 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: climate change Kobie Locatelli <be@cliietik.oo> - 2023-01-15 11:38 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: climate change Kobie Locatelli <be@cliietik.oo> - 2023-01-15 13:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-15 13:14 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 13:10 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 13:14 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 14:48 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 16:44 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 17:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 13:31 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 13:39 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 14:19 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 00:55 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 22:24 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:58 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 13:16 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:58 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:07 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:11 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:18 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-19 15:18 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 13:51 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 13:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-19 18:47 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 10:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-20 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 21:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-20 14:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 12:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-20 19:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-21 01:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-21 20:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-21 15:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-21 21:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-22 12:08 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-23 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-24 08:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change Faustino Biondo <uinn@bfotboia.nt> - 2023-01-25 19:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 16:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-27 08:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-27 14:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-28 14:08 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-30 07:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-30 07:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-31 09:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-31 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 11:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-03 21:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 19:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-04 21:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 12:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 22:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-23 16:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:57 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:28 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 16:20 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:10 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:57 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 11:57 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 23:25 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: climate change Edurardo De felice <eduu@eiudece.co> - 2023-01-17 13:49 +0000
                                                                                        Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                                                                                          Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:09 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                                                                                        Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:06 -0800
                                                                                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-11 11:29 +0100
                                                                                  Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 13:00 -0500
                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:44 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-11 11:17 -0800
                                                                                    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:51 -0800
                                                                                      Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-11 14:36 -0600
                                                                                    Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-12 08:09 +0100
                                                                                      Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:55 -0500
                                                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-13 08:11 +0100
                                                                                          Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 13:12 +0100
                                                                                            Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 04:41 -0800
                                                                                              Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 16:11 +0100
                                                                                                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 08:54 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 21:52 +0100
                                                                                          Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:21 -0500
                                                                                            Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-14 09:54 +0100
                                                                                              Re: climate change Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2023-01-14 10:07 +0100
                                                                                              Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:03 -0800
                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:24 -0800
                                                                                                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:26 -0800
                                                                                                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-15 08:11 +0100
                                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-10 07:18 +0100
                                                    Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:06 +0100
                                                      Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:22 -0600
                                                        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:27 +0100
                                                      Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:43 -0600
                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:54 -0800
                                                        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:57 -0800
                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:03 -0800
                                                          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:10 -0800
                                                            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 17:29 -0800
                                                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:20 -0800
                                                  Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:24 -0600
                                                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:27 -0600
                                                  Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:02 -0800
                                                    Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:20 -0800
                                                      Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:48 -0600
                                                        Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 21:29 -0600
                                                          Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:28 +0100
                                                    Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:29 -0600
                                              Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:26 -0600
                                        Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 06:16 -0600
            Re: climate change "kellehe...@gmail.com" <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 01:59 -0800
            Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 08:10 +0100
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:34 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 08:45 +0100
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:47 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 12:18 -0800
              Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-28 12:34 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 13:06 -0800
                  Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 15:29 -0800
              Re: climate change Santos Anselmetti <ttln@niitstsm.sa> - 2022-12-28 23:33 +0000
    Re: climate change Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-01-05 20:08 +1100
      Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 16:17 -0800
        Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-06 08:11 +0100
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 11:29 -0800
          Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 11:30 -0800
            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 13:21 -0800
              Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:20 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:09 -0800
            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:29 -0800
    Re: climate change George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 23:45 -0800
      Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 16:06 +0000
        Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-13 12:03 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:08 -0800
          Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 21:10 +0000
            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800
            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800

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#598963

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 12:27 -0800
Message-ID<efbb38f0-716f-459b-bd19-c1cd136d0d4cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598927
On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 10:36:27 PM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:

"Photons are certain states, which behave in the odd ways, which QM deals
with."

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

QM is based on Planck's em photon but an expanding em field cannot form the particle structure of a photon.

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#598964

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 13:30 -0800
Message-ID<3f00573a-1cc2-4b20-95b3-5f623d2b63e2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598963
Climate Change
 
 
                Global warming is said to be caused by the greenhouse effect of CO2 but the heat capacity of the earth’s atmosphere has not significantly increased in the last 100 years, and, only .04% of the earth’s atmosphere is composed of CO2; consequently, infinitesimal amount of CO2 in the atmosphere (.04%) is not trapping a significant amount of heat that would justify the cause of climate change. The heat capacity of ocean water is six times greater than the heat capacity of the earth's atmosphere. The average global ocean surface temperature has increased approximately 1.5° F in the last 100 years but since the ocean has a heat capacity six times greater than that of the earth’s atmosphere, the ocean temperature increase is comparable to a (1.5° F) x 6 = 9° F increase in the earth’s atmospheric temperature which would account for the 12° F peaks in the polar temperatures. The 911 once-through cooled reactors and 1.2 million tons of depleted uranium fuel rods that heated water (120o F) is directly discharged into the water source are the primary causes of climate change where the increase in the ocean temperature is shifting the earth’s surface temperature equilibrium which is resulting in the earth’s present weather anomalies. To solve a problem, you need to know the cause of the problem, and, you cannot solve a problem, if you cannot accept your mistakes.

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#598966

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 13:46 -0800
Message-ID<cda87eb3-7c62-48dc-bf72-80f1bd850794n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598964
The average global ocean surface temperature has increased approximately 1.5° F in the last 100 years since the ocean has a heat capacity six times greater than that of the earth’s atmosphere, the ocean temperature increase is comparable to a (1.5° F) x 6 = 9° F increase in the earth’s atmospheric temperature which would account for the 12° F peaks in the polar temperatures.

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#598967

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 13:48 -0800
Message-ID<b794a169-7a0c-4965-b8ab-249a94d95ff9n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598964
The average global ocean surface temperature has increased approximately 1.5° F in the last 100 years since the ocean has a heat capacity six times greater than that of the earth’s atmosphere, the ocean temperature increase is comparable to a (1.5° F) x 6 = 9° F increase in the earth’s atmospheric temperature which would account for the 12° F peaks in the polar temperatures; consequently, the 911 once-through cooled reactors and 1.2 million tons of depleted uranium fuel rods that heated water (120o F) is directly discharged into the water source are the primary causes of climate change.

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#598992

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 17:14 -0800
Message-ID<5d065595-8223-48bf-8825-38c94e89faa4n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598967
There seem to be something wrong with the temperature increase of the ocean which is said to be 1.5 degrees in the last 100 years since the temperature is the same as the atmospheric increase. I have to think about it but definitely CO2 does not trap the earth heat since the outer edge of the atm. is open which begs the question where is the heat trapped? The earth's heat is dissipated at night.  The assumption that heat bounces all around the atm is nonsense.  Maybe consequently would have a better answer.

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#598993

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 17:29 -0800
Message-ID<fd4a01b1-f4ce-40f6-9563-1377a15cc310n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598992
In conclusion, by acting as if anthropogenic climate change is the issue, we have nothing to lose but stand to gain from the solutions proposed by such advocates.

https://www.quora.com/If-environmental- ... ent_type=2

———-that is nice.

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#598994

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-03 18:13 -0800
Message-ID<56cb8b85-633b-4bb4-8214-7943af026d38n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#598992
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:

> I have to think about it but definitely CO2 does not trap the earth heat since the outer edge of the atm. is open which begs the question where is the heat trapped? 

Are you too ignorant to simply look this up for yourself? This is too easy...

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide#:~:text=Carbon%20dioxide%20is%20Earth's%20most,including%20back%20toward%20Earth's%20surface.

"Carbon dioxide is Earth’s most important greenhouse gas: a gas that absorbs and radiates heat. Unlike oxygen or nitrogen (which make up most of our atmosphere), greenhouse gases absorb heat radiating from the Earth’s surface and re-release it in all directions—including back toward Earth’s surface."

The higher the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere the higher amount of heat that gets re-radiated back towards the surface of the planet.

Read that article all the way through, you should learn something that you clearly do not know right now!

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#599004

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2023-01-04 10:12 +0100
Message-ID<k1ku76Fc81nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#598994
Am 04.01.2023 um 03:13 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
>
>> I have to think about it but definitely CO2 does not trap the earth heat since the outer edge of the atm. is open which begs the question where is the heat trapped?
>
> Are you too ignorant to simply look this up for yourself? This is too easy...
>
> https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide#:~:text=Carbon%20dioxide%20is%20Earth's%20most,including%20back%20toward%20Earth's%20surface.
>
> "Carbon dioxide is Earth’s most important greenhouse gas: a gas that absorbs and radiates heat. Unlike oxygen or nitrogen (which make up most of our atmosphere), greenhouse gases absorb heat radiating from the Earth’s surface and re-release it in all directions—including back toward Earth’s surface."


This is simply wrong, because the most important green-house-gas on 
earth is water.

But 'climate-alarmists' simply do what you did and entirely ignore water.

Water can also be a gas and also emitt and absorb heat.

And water is fantastically abundant on planet Earth, which is mostly 
covered with ozeans, that are on average 4 km deep.

So: the first thing to consider in connection with climate is water.

Water is present in a lot of different forms, what make this difficult:

We have ice and snow, for instance, and also liquid water (quite a lot). 
But we have also a lot of water in the form of gas in the atmosphere.

This gas builds occasionally tiny droplets in the sky, known as 'clouds'.

These clouds are mainly, what controlls our weather, hence water is 
ultimatively the main agent in climate.

This is all obvious. But not so obvious is, whether CO2 has an impact on 
the weather at all.


TH

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#599033

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-01-04 12:59 -0500
Message-ID<tp4epp$2hl7i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599004
Water vapor has a negative feedback system, namely clouds.

When clouds form, not only does that reduce the water vapor and its 
greenhouse contribution, they actively block incident light from 
reaching the surface. That light never gets to contribute to the warming.

CO2 obviously does not participate in the water cycle. The question is 
how much does CO2 contribute to the overall greenhouse effect when there 
is also a water cycle.

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#599091

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2023-01-05 07:40 +0100
Message-ID<k1n9n8F8e6bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#599033
Am 04.01.2023 um 18:59 schrieb Volney:
> Water vapor has a negative feedback system, namely clouds.
>
> When clouds form, not only does that reduce the water vapor and its
> greenhouse contribution, they actively block incident light from
> reaching the surface. That light never gets to contribute to the warming.
>
> CO2 obviously does not participate in the water cycle. The question is
> how much does CO2 contribute to the overall greenhouse effect when there
> is also a water cycle.

This is the important question!

I personally think, the water cicle is so immense, that a little 
influence by CO2 is simply 'washed away'.

Also the negative feed-back by clouds is very important.

Negative feedback loops are often used in electronics to stabilize 
outputs in e.g. amplifiers.

So clouds should stabilize the ground tempratures, too.

see here:


"
arXiv:1907.00165v1  [physics.gen-ph]  29 Jun 2019
NO EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT
ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE
J. KAUPPINEN AND P. MALMI
Abstract. In this paper we will prove that GCM-models used in IPCC 
report AR5 fail to calculate the in?uences of the low cloud cover 
changes on the global temperature. That is why those models give a very 
small natural temperature change leaving a very large change for the 
contribution of the green-house gases in the observed temperature. This 
is the reason why IPCC has to use a very large sensitivity to compensate 
a too small natural component. Further they have to leave out the strong 
negative feedback due to the clouds in order to magnify the sensitivity. 
In addition, this paper proves that the changes in the low cloud cover 
fraction practically control the global temperature.

…
(page 5)
The IPCC climate sensitivity is about one order of magnitude too high, 
because a strong negative feedback of the clouds is missing in climate 
models. If we pay attention to the fact that only a small part of the 
increased CO2 concentration is anthropogenic, we have to recognize that 
the anthropogenic climate change does not exist in practice. The major 
part of the extra CO2 is emitted from oceans [6], according to Henry‘s 
law. The low clouds practically control the global average temperature. 
#During the last hundred years the temperature is increased about 0.1°C 
because of CO2 . The human contribution was about 0.01°C.

3. Conclusion
We have proven that the GCM-models used in IPCC report AR5 cannot 
compute correctly the natural component included in the observed global 
temperature. The reason is that the models fail to derive the influences 
of low cloud cover fraction on the global temperature. A too small 
natural component results in a too large portion for the contribution of 
the greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide. That is why IPCC represents 
the climate sensitivity more than one order of magnitude larger than our 
sensitivity 0.24°C. Because the anthropogenic portion in the increased 
CO2 is less than 10 %, we have practically no anthropogenic climate 
change. The low clouds control mainly the global temperature.
"

TH

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#599039

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-04 11:17 -0800
Message-ID<63B5D0D9.6D0A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#598964
carl eto wrote:
> 
> Climate Change
> 
> 
> 

There is no greenhouse effect. It is the other way around. It is what makes a greenhouse, and why a greenhouse. 

Blue and Yellow makes Green.

It's not that complicated.

Ask any 3 year old.


Draw a picture of the ocean and color it.
Draw a picture of the Sun and color it.

A blue ocean. A yellow sun.


Blue and Yellow makes Green.


In other words, Blue and Yellow makes the Greenhouse.


You got an ocean, you got a sun, what does that make? Trees.


A greenhouse.

A greenhouse makes...people and fishes.


Don't you people bother to read Science magazines?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EC89nsyUUAAgc13?format=jpg&name=medium




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#599043

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 11:49 -0800
Message-ID<d80a5569-e7a7-4644-8300-86f506f3765an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599039
On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:  

"This is simply wrong, because the most important green-house-gas on earth is water."

Your statement is based on the assumption that the green house theory is valid but a green house has an outer mess that traps heat yet the earth's atm. is open. Water (clouds) is a symptom of the problem not the cause. You are trying a attribute a symptom to the cause which is incorrect thinking.

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#599061

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 14:40 -0800
Message-ID<49d70a6a-24d1-4bbd-b5b1-c22b53af1092n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599043
Interesting question came to me which is what happens to the energy (KE) of gas molecule that ke reduces at night.

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#599140

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-05 14:40 -0800
Message-ID<63B751CB.29C8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599043
carl eto wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> "This is simply wrong, because the most important green-house-gas on earth is water."
> 
> Your statement is based on the assumption that the green house theory is valid but a green house has an outer mess that traps heat yet the earth's atm. is open. Water (clouds) is a symptom of the problem not the cause. You are trying a attribute a symptom to the cause which is incorrect thinking.


"outer mess"???? do you mean earth's  atmosphere?


"Water (clouds) is a symptom"??? 


i don't understand wat jou talkin bout...

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#599032

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-01-04 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<tp4e9u$2hj7r$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#598927
On 1/3/2023 1:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 02.01.2023 um 09:36 schrieb Volney:
>> On 1/1/2023 8:56 PM, thor stoneman wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 5:10:09 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>>
>>> "Radio waves and microwaves; infrared and ultraviolet light; X-rays
>>> and gamma rays: All of these are light, and all of them are made up of
>>> photons."
>>>
>>>
>>> This statement does not make any sense since radio waves, microwaves,
>>> X-rays and gamma rays are not emitting light (the stuff that you can
>>> see in the dark).
>> Radio waves don't emit photons because radio waves ARE photons.
> 
> Well, if you equate radio waves and photons, this should work both ways 
> - like: photons are radio waves.
> 
> I would not really agree, because photons are 'packets' of something, 
> while radio waves are assumed to be continuous.
> 
> So: photons are not built from waves and waves are not built from photons.

Waves and photons are two representations of the same thing.
Sometimes light acts like particles (photons), other times as waves.

> But on the macro level the waves behave like continuous structures.

Sometimes.

The photoelectric effect cannot be explained by waves, for example.

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#599086

FromTom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2023-01-04 23:06 -0600
Message-ID<meydnW3TxfNwxyv-nZ2dnZfqlJ9h4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#598927
On 1/3/23 12:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> photons are 'packets' of something,

Not true. You repeatedly demonstrate your comprehensive ignorance of
basic physics.

Photons are excitations of the (quantum) electromagnetic field.

Electromagnetic waves appear to be continuous, but aren't really. Ditto
for water waves, sound waves, etc. Indeed we have never found any
continuous structures in the world we inhabit.

Tom Roberts

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#599090

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-01-05 00:13 -0600
Message-ID<k1n848F808uU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#599086
On 1/4/2023 11:06 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 1/3/23 12:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> photons are 'packets' of something,
> 
> Not true. You repeatedly demonstrate your comprehensive ignorance of
> basic physics.
> 
> Photons are excitations of the (quantum) electromagnetic field.
> 
> Electromagnetic waves appear to be continuous, but aren't really. Ditto
> for water waves, sound waves, etc. Indeed we have never found any
> continuous structures in the world we inhabit.
> 
> Tom Roberts

You are wrong in this. Imbecility is continuous. Just look around.

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#599094

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2023-01-05 08:01 +0100
Message-ID<k1nav1F8ilqU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#599086
Am 05.01.2023 um 06:06 schrieb Tom Roberts:
> On 1/3/23 12:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> photons are 'packets' of something,
>
> Not true. You repeatedly demonstrate your comprehensive ignorance of
> basic physics.
>
> Photons are excitations of the (quantum) electromagnetic field.
>
> Electromagnetic waves appear to be continuous, but aren't really. Ditto
> for water waves, sound waves, etc. Indeed we have never found any
> continuous structures in the world we inhabit.
>

As far as I can tell, time is contious and not countable.

Therefore, any arbitrarily small time intervals are actually defined.


TH

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#599123

FromTom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2023-01-05 11:47 -0600
Message-ID<z4WdnTmME-W-kCr-nZ2dnZfqlJxg4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#599094
On 1/5/23 1:01 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 05.01.2023 um 06:06 schrieb Tom Roberts:
>> On 1/3/23 12:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> photons are 'packets' of something,
>> Not true. You repeatedly demonstrate your comprehensive ignorance 
>> of basic physics. Photons are excitations of the (quantum) 
>> electromagnetic field. Electromagnetic waves appear to be 
>> continuous, but aren't really. Ditto for water waves, sound waves, 
>> etc. Indeed we have never found any continuous structures in the 
>> world we inhabit.
> 
> As far as I can tell, time is contious and not countable.

That's your problem: AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL. Your human senses are
WOEFULLY INADEQUATE. As far as you can tell, every physical object you
see or touch is continuous, although we KNOW that each is constructed of
discrete atoms.

As for time, the best instruments we have do not come anywhere close to
the Planck time (~ 5E-44 sec). So we don't know if time is continuous at
that scale (which is the natural scale where it might be quantized).

Also: neither time nor Imbecility is a structure, so are not
counterexamples to my claim above.

Tom Roberts

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#599126

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-05 10:17 -0800
Message-ID<0d10f0ca-6e3a-4504-9277-8bd4ad271c6bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599123
On Thursday, 5 January 2023 at 18:47:22 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 1/5/23 1:01 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: 
> > Am 05.01.2023 um 06:06 schrieb Tom Roberts: 
> >> On 1/3/23 12:36 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: 
> >>> photons are 'packets' of something, 
> >> Not true. You repeatedly demonstrate your comprehensive ignorance 
> >> of basic physics. Photons are excitations of the (quantum) 
> >> electromagnetic field. Electromagnetic waves appear to be 
> >> continuous, but aren't really. Ditto for water waves, sound waves, 
> >> etc. Indeed we have never found any continuous structures in the 
> >> world we inhabit. 
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, time is contious and not countable.
> That's your problem: AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL. Your human senses are 
> WOEFULLY INADEQUATE. As far as you can tell, every physical object you 
> see or touch is continuous, although we KNOW that each is constructed of 
> discrete atoms. 
> 
> As for time, the best instruments we have do not come anywhere close to 
> the Planck time (~ 5E-44 sec). So we don't know if time is continuous at 
> that scale (which is the natural scale where it might be quantized). 

Tom, poor halfbrain, what do you think time is?

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