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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.ai.philosophy, sci.math, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science |
| Date | 2026-04-18 09:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n4gradFq3vlU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Freitag000017, 17.04.2026 um 17:08 schrieb Ross Finlayson: > On 04/16/2026 11:59 PM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Montag000013, 13.04.2026 um 17:38 schrieb The Starmaker: >>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> >>>> Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 19:29 schrieb The Starmaker: >>>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Samstag000011, 11.04.2026 um 19:52 schrieb Maciej Woźniak: >>>>>>> On 4/11/2026 3:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 04/11/2026 05:23 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 4/11/2026 8:37 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2026 10:41 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Natural and science make an oxymoron, sorry. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Science is "natural" like numbers are "natural", >>>>>>>>>> since for "first principles" and "final cause" >>>>>>>>>> that according to "science" that those are "science", >>>>>>>>>> and here, "logic". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your arm waving won't help, natural and >>>>>>>>> science make an oxymoron. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it's not natural, then it's synthetic. >>>>>>>> The only reason people think science is synthetic >>>>>>>> is because they were told some vague reasoning >>>>>>>> about paradoxes and the limitations of sense, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why don't monkeys have any science? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They have, but not yet have invented the printing press. >>>>>> >>>>>> TH >>>>> >>>>> Well, how did the monkies come up with the Complete Works of >>>>> Shakespeare >>>>> then? >>>> >>>> Monkeys cannot speak very well. >>>> >>>> But some gorillas have learned to 'speak' with hand signs. >>>> >>>> But that is difficult to print, anyhow. >>>> >>>> Possibly you could teach a gorilla to use a printing press, but I have >>>> doubts about their possibility to write, if the gorilla cannot speak. >>>> >>>> But maybe a system based on pictograms could be a way to allow the apes >>>> to express their emotions, transfer that to some printable form and >>>> subsequently squeeze it on paper. >>>> >>>> TH >>>> >>>> ... >>> >>> You obvisoluly never heard of... >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem >>> >>> >>> look at the picture of a monkey who cannot speak but can type... >> >> Actually I did and heard about the 'infinite monkey theorem' before. >> >> But that idea is based upon randomness, while speaking means actually >> the opposite. >> >> Most humans think, that apes could not produce non-random expressions. >> >> But that ain't the case. >> >> In fact monkeys are quite clever beasts and can produce very >> sophisticated things with their minds. >> >> What they can't do, however, that is actually speaking, because they >> don't have the organs to produce these specific sounds we use in >> language. >> >> But monkeys can actually 'speak' by other means, like with hand signs or >> by pointing at signs on a computer screen. >> >> >> TH >> > > It's pretty simple that according to evolution, > one of the monkeys _is_ Shakespeare. Now, explain > that, for example that "language is not dead", > vis-a-vis, "evolution". Well, you may think, that Shakespeare was actually an ape. But I believe in a different theory. This theory claims, that the works of Shakespeare were not written by the historical person bearing that name at all. The works allegedly written by Shakespeares stem from various sources and writers (mostly female), who done that as kind of home work. This same assumption was also made for other historical figures like e.g. Newton. Britons did that because of the class society in England at that time, where the upper classes regarded as theirs, what their people produced (may it be literature, art or science). Then entirely fictitious people were invented or real people used, who had done nothing, but used to present as their work, what was created by others. This system is actually perpetuated and used till today, because it turned out to be extremely profitable. I call it the 'Milli-Vanilli-syndrome'. It is so ubiquitous, that people hardly recognize it. TH ...
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