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Re: The real measurements deny The Shit

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The real measurements deny The Shit
Date 2025-09-10 11:02 +0200
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Am Dienstag000009, 09.09.2025 um 09:49 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
...
>>> These days 'physics' has grown enormously,
>>> there is quantum field theory, several fundamental interactions,
>>> and perhaps strings.
>>> But, as you know, this is not without problems.
>>> The Grand Unification of those forces is missing,
>>> string theory is (arguably) a failure,
>>> and merging general relativity with all things quantum
>>> to a Theory OF Everything has been found to be impossible, so far.
>>>
>>> Therefore I think it is best to keep pure geometry,
>>> (as given by general relativity)
>>> and the physics that plays out in that geometry
>>> as separate as possible,
>>
>> My own approach to this problem was:
>>
>> assume that spacetime of GR is real and make particles (and 'all 
>> things quantum') out of that.
> 
> 
> Spacetime is static. It never changes.
> It's not making anything. You're just
> putting words together at random.
> 

The idea was, that spacetime or GR could be real and we as human beings 
had an 'inside view', because we are actually 'part of the show'.

Now we need to guess a superset, while knowing only a subset (our own 
impressions).

This ain't that easy, but I found a possible solution.

In this spacetime is real and our world is actually the local impression 
from our particular position.

To be somewhere would require, to see the world from there.

But our brain is designed to take this impression and generalise it, 
hence we think, that the universe should be larger version of what we 
can actually see.

Only: that ain't the case.

Therefor we cannot use our intuitions to estimate the superset, to which 
we ourselves are a subset.

In fact we had to check all sorts of modells and ideas, whether they 
would produce the same impression of the universe, which we actually see.

Then we could take the remaining concepts and check, whether or not they 
are somehow possible.

Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 'structured 
spacetime' was the final remainder.

Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of phenomena, 
but based upon this concept.

And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.

TH

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  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-21 21:36 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-21 19:39 +0000
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 11:06 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:07 +0000
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 18:43 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:50 +0000
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 18:55 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-21 23:32 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:20 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:58 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:22 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 22:33 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:26 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-24 23:18 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-25 21:36 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 22:03 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-26 10:53 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-26 11:51 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 12:00 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-27 14:02 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 19:54 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 21:22 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-28 20:09 +0000
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 22:35 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-28 20:44 +0000
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 23:24 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-29 20:41 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:30 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:45 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-29 14:52 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-30 11:56 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 12:14 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 12:49 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 14:23 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-03 15:53 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-03 16:45 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-04 22:31 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-04 23:11 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-04 22:02 +0000
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    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 10:13 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 11:04 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 19:28 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 19:44 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:41 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:55 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:53 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:08 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 20:53 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:10 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:30 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-26 21:02 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 14:28 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-27 21:14 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Lazaro Wojewódka <jole@lqae.pl> - 2025-08-27 19:37 +0000
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 09:57 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-28 22:55 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Chadwick Wojewódzki <ik@zwij.pl> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +0000
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-24 08:13 +0200

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