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Re: The real measurements deny The Shit

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The real measurements deny The Shit
Date 2025-08-22 08:56 +0200
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Am Donnerstag000021, 21.08.2025 um 21:36 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
> Den 21.08.2025 06:58, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>> On 4/10/2025 10:41 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>
>>  > GPS clocks are adjusted down by (1 - 4.4647e-10)
>>  > so the adjusted clock will measure a mean solar day
>>  > to last 86400 s, and the clock will stay in sync with UTC.
>>
>> Yeah, that's right -  real measurement is 86400 where
>> The Shit is predicting 86400+37us. Even such a piece
>> of lying shit as Paul is can't lie non stop...
>>
>> No, sorry - explaining why measurements don't
>> fit your idiocy is not changing the fact that
>> they don't.
> 
> One simple question:
> 
> A clock running according to the SI definition of second
> will, when it is on the ground,  measure a mean solar day
> to last 86400 s and stay in sync  with the UTC.
> 
> But when the same clock is in GPS orbit, it has to be
> adjusted down by (1 - 4.4647e-10) to measure a mean solar day
> to last 86400 s, and to stay in sync with UTC.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> You know, the GPS has been working for 50+ years, and every
> satellite has been adjusted as stated above, so we know
> the adjustment is necessary.


You want to address the dependency of time/clocks upon acceleration and 
asked, why this happens.

Well, my own explanation goes like this:

I assume, that spacetime of GR is actually real and serves as kind of 
background.

Any real object is now bound to the own local axis of time, because 
objects are (in my opinion) 'timelike stable patterns' (of/in spacetime).

This would restrict the possibility of existence of an object to the own 
local 'time domain'.

This is for us human beings the surface of planet Earth.

Now, gravity is actually an acceleration. And accelerations can curve 
worldlines (a little bit).

If there is now less gravity in outer space, than clocks there belong to 
a different 'time domain', too.

But also 'applied acceleration' could modify the local axis of time and 
curve that a bit.

This would make time in such a realm seemingly run too fast, hence an 
object would look, as if it gets pulled away by invisible forces.

This would therefore cause something like the so called 'Pioneer 
anomaly' and stems from fly byes and the initial start of the space probe.



TH

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  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-21 21:36 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-21 19:39 +0000
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        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:07 +0000
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            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:50 +0000
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 18:55 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-21 23:32 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:20 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:58 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:22 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 22:33 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:26 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-24 23:18 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-25 21:36 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 22:03 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-26 10:53 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-26 11:51 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 12:00 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-27 14:02 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 19:54 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-29 20:41 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:30 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:45 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-29 14:52 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-30 11:56 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 12:14 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-03 15:53 +0200
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                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-25 22:05 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-22 08:56 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 10:13 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 11:04 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 19:28 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 19:44 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:41 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:55 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:53 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:08 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 20:53 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:10 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:30 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-26 21:02 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 14:28 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-27 21:14 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Lazaro Wojewódka <jole@lqae.pl> - 2025-08-27 19:37 +0000
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 09:57 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-28 22:55 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Chadwick Wojewódzki <ik@zwij.pl> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +0000
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-24 08:13 +0200

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