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Re: Einstein versus Poincaré

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject Re: Einstein versus Poincaré
Date 2025-06-09 07:17 +0200
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Am Samstag000007, 07.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb Coby Schrijnemakers:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> I had also doubts about the sources of 'On the electrodynamics of moving
>> bodies' and especially about the alleged date.
>>
>> I think, that Einstein's text contains actually quotes from "On the
>> Dynamics of the Electron", which was published two weeks later.
>>
>> Einstein had most likely also quoted Heinrich Hertz, but without
>> reference and also incorrectly.
> 
> quoting?? the Einstine was so stupid not remembering his own quotes. Not remembering he had any quotes. He was just delivering patents to other people to undrestand. You take from the left and give it to the right.


I have actually obtained copies of the books of Heinrich Hertz and spent 
some time on searching for similarities to Einstein's text.

As German is my primary language, I had no difficulty in reading them.

Hertz was also a very good writer and so it was not hat difficult to 
read his papers.

I have searched his works (few, actually, as he died relatively young) 
and found a lot of things, which looked like Einstein's text.

As Einstein actually had mentioned the name 'Hertz', I was allowed to 
assume, that Einstein had read the books of Heinrich Hertz, too.

But Hertz was a convinced 'aetherist', while Einstein wasn't.

Hertz also used very similar equations, but with total derivatives, 
where Einstein used partial derivatives.

Hertz used also almost the same variable names, especially for the 
components of the electric and magnetic field strength vectors.

So: I found similarities, but also differences.

These differences are now, what is actually critical, because 'wrong 
quotes' are actually worse than 'no quotes'.

...


TH

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Einstein versus Poincaré Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2025-06-04 16:19 +0000
  Re: Einstein versus Poincaré Valentin Bakinoff <ltif@bnife.ru> - 2025-06-04 17:29 +0000
  Re: Einstein versus Poincaré Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-07 09:01 +0200
    Re: Einstein versus Poincaré Coby Schrijnemakers <ckess@sembo.nl> - 2025-06-07 10:28 +0000
      Re: Einstein versus Poincaré Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-09 07:17 +0200

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