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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Annotated version of SRT |
| Date | 2022-05-20 09:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <jeouh1Fo7vaU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am 18.05.2022 um 19:02 schrieb JanPB: > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:53:05 PM UTC-7, I wrote: >> >>> He used partial derivatives, for what there was no >>> reason, because the other variables (y/eta and z/zeta) were not involved. >> >> They were but their values were identically zero, so Einstein >> didn't include them in the equation. > > Sorry, I got carried away by the other part of the derivation. Here the answer > is that the derivatives wrt y and z are not present because in the first tau > equation the variable x' is not present in the y and z slots of tau. x' is not a variable! x' denotes the location of the mirror at rest in k, but measured in K-coordinates. That position is in some distance d from the emitter of the zero spot of k. This distance was not named 'd', nor even mentioned, but should exist. Therefore, I assume d would be the name for the disatnce between emitter and mirror in k. d is arbitrary (because not specified), but assumed as a constant value, because the mirror is assumed to be at rest in k. The position of the mirror is moving in K as x', but that does not make x' a variable. > That's why in order to calculate dtau/dy and dtau/dz it's necessary to set up > tau equations with the y and z variables present (that's what setting up the > mirror in the Y and Z directions does). What is dtau/dy? tau is a time measure in k and y a coordinate in K. So: how do we interpret dtau/dy? something like: a small variation of the y-coordinate in K is corresponding to a small variation of the time tau in k? As that is absurd, we need to aply the other meaning of 'tau' here, which is a function! That function is a coordinate transformation between k and K. The input values of tau are four vectors in k and the output corresponding four-vectors in K. To use partial derrivatives was actually correct, because only one coordinate y was considered. But Einstein used x', which is NOT a variable of that function. TH
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Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-19 02:05 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-05-20 09:17 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-05-20 15:10 -0700
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