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Re: Relativistic synchronisation method

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Relativistic synchronisation method
Date 2024-12-29 08:25 -0800
Organization The Starmaker Organization
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Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> 
> Den 22.12.2024 22:15, skrev Richard Hachel:
> > Le 22/12/2024 à 20:56, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
> >> Den 22.12.2024 14:35, skrev Richard Hachel:
> >>> Le 22/12/2024 à 14:00, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> I want you to answer my simple questions in a way I can understand.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will reformulate my question so you will only have to
> >>>> answer "YES" or "NO".
> >>>>
> >>>> Here we go:
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard, do you own a watch of some kind?
> >>>> Â  'yes' or 'no', please!
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you use the internet to set your watch?
> >>>> (or is your watch a computer on the net?)
> >>>> Â  'yes' or 'no', please!
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you use a mobile network to set your watch?
> >>>> (or is your watch a mobile phone?)
> >>>> Â  'yes' or 'no', please!
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you use GPS to set your watch?
> >>>> (or is your watch a GPS-receiver?)
> >>>> Â  'yes' or 'no', please!
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you use public radio or TV to set your  watch?
> >>>> (or is your watch on a radio receiver or a TV?)
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you expect your watch to show the same as the clock on
> >>>> the wall of a railway station or an airport (within a minute or so)?
> >>>> Â  'yes' or 'no', please
> 
> >>>
> >>> Everything you say is true.
> >>>
> >>> So I can answer "yes, absolutely" to all your questions.
> 
> >>
> >> OK. Thanks for a clear answer.
> >>
> >> You expect your watch to be synchronous with the clock on the wall
> >> of a railway station or an airport an airport within a minute or so.
> >>
> 
> >
> > You still don't understand what I'm trying to tell you (it's been four
> > decades).
> 
> Yes, your clear answer to my question was easy to understand.
> 
> My question was:
> "Do you expect your watch to show the same as the clock on
>   the wall of a railway station or an airport?"
> 
> Your answer was 'yes'.
> 
> So you expect the clock on the railway station to be synchronous with
> your clock.
> 
> >
> > We breathe, we blow.
> >
> > We have a little coffee, and we hold our heads in our hands.
> >
> > WE CANNOT absolutely synchronize two watches with each other, because it
> > is physically impossible.
> 
> Right.
> There is no such thing as "absolute synchronisation".
> It is meaningless because it is no "absolute time".
> 
> Your clock and my clock and the clock on the railway station
> in Paris are synchronous in the non-rotating Earth centred
> frame of reference (ECI-frame).
> 
> >
> > We must therefore synchronize the two watches on a third virtual watch
> > for which the two events watch A marks noon, and watch B marks noon are
> > SIMULTANEOUS.
> 
> My question was:
> "Do you use the internet to set your watch?"
> 
> Your answer was 'yes'.
> 
> So you know you can synchronise your clock to all the millions
> of other synchronous clocks showing UTC+1h, to within a second
> via internet:
> 
> https://time.is/clock
> 
> You may call the 'clock' you see on your screen "a virtual clock".
> 
> But you don't have to do it at noon, you can do it any time.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Happy new year!
> 
> --
> Paul
> 
> https://paulba.no/

My watch is synchronized to the first picosecond of the big bang...


everyone else watch has the incorrect untrue time.




I'm the only one in the universe who knows what time it is...now.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-12-16 22:59 +0800
    Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-16 16:25 +0100
      Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-16 16:06 +0000
        Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-16 17:43 +0100
          Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-16 17:02 +0000
            Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-16 19:51 +0100
              Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-16 23:25 +0000
        Re: Relativistic synchronisation method "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-12-17 14:51 +0100
          Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:31 +0000
            Re: Relativistic synchronisation method "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-12-21 15:22 +0100
              Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-21 17:26 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-12-22 14:02 +0100
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-22 13:35 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-22 11:16 -0800
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-26 14:08 -0800
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-12-22 20:58 +0100
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-22 12:21 -0800
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 12:31 -0800
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:17 -0800
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-01 21:55 +0100
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:07 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:22 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:52 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-30 21:06 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-02 14:49 +0100
          Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:52 +0000
    Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-16 15:35 +0000
    Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-16 15:36 +0000
      Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-16 17:41 +0100
      Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-12-17 12:33 +0800
        Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 10:45 +0000
          Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-17 12:24 +0100
          Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:42 +0000
            Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 17:19 +0000
              Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 17:32 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 17:50 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 17:57 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:14 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:15 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method "shades@cov.net.inv" <seeu@nt.net> - 2024-12-17 20:47 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:02 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 17:58 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jp@python.invalide> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:01 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 18:05 +0000
                Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:43 +0000
            Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-12-17 18:51 +0100
  Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-12-17 15:30 +0200
    Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:16 +0000
      Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-12-19 12:52 +0200
        Re: Relativistic synchronisation method Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:34 +0000

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