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Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating
Date 2024-03-30 09:49 -0700
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Volney wrote:
> 
> On 3/29/2024 3:51 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 28.03.2024 um 07:29 schrieb Volney:
> >> On 3/28/2024 2:12 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>> Am 18.03.2024 um 19:20 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
> >>>>
> >>>> A hypothesis ....
> >>>>
> >>>> ... filling the space that is the agglomeration of what was their jet.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, are there gravitic singularities in the middle of galaxies?
> >>>> Maybe not.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there gravitic filaments holding it all together?  Maybe not.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> My personal view on this problem:
> >>>
> >>> galaxies are not held together by gravity and there is no need for
> >>> gravity, because the galaxies are not rotating in their own frame of
> >>> reference.
> >>>
> >>> It is OUR !!! impression from a remote position, that galaxies rotate.
> >>>
> >>> But seen from a comoving position from within that galaxy, the
> >>> galaxies (of course) don't rotate.
> >>>
> >> Rotation is absolute. If a galaxy is rotating, that it is rotating can
> >> be detected either from within or without the galaxy.
> >
> > 'Absolute' is a dangerous term in cosmology, because relativity says,
> > that space itself is not absolute.
> >
> Rotation is absolute in that a rotating frame has a pseudoforce, and
> Newton's Laws don't hold. This cannot be compensated by assuming the
> frame is not rotating and the rest of the universe is rotating in the
> opposite direction.



galaxies rotate to keep other galaxies from getting too close.

the universe doesn't rotate, it is Space that rotates.

space is 'within' the universe.

the universe created God
God found himself in a Space
God created the heavens and
the earth 'in' that space, and
God was killed 
in the explosion.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-18 11:20 -0700
  Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-18 13:19 -0700
    Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-03-18 21:54 +0100
  Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-18 22:09 -0700
    Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-03-19 00:54 -0700
      Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-19 11:41 -0700
        Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-19 14:41 -0700
  Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-03-28 07:12 +0100
    Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-28 02:29 -0400
      Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 21:38 -0700
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                Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-11 21:06 +0000
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                Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-13 11:09 -0700
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        Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-30 11:57 -0400
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