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Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject	Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating
Date	2024-04-09 21:14 -0700
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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
> On 4/8/2024 11:47 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Am 05.04.2024 um 10:20 schrieb Mikko:
> >
> >>>>> In this case a vortex is actually a structure of significant depth,
> >>>>> where stars are stacked in distance, hence also 'stacked in time' (in
> >>>>> the image).
> >>>>
> >>>> Why would you want to explain someting that is never seen?
> >>>
> >>> Theoretical physics does not require visibility.
> >>
> >> Study of phantasies is not physics of any kind.
> >>
> >>> Interesting are phenomenons which exist, whether they are visible or
> >>> not.
> >>
> >> They are interesting only if they are observed to exist or there is
> >> a good reason to expect that they can be observed.
> >>
> >>> E.g. a ship on the other side of the planet cannot be seen from here
> >>> or the other side of the Moon.
> >>
> >> Both can be seen.
> >>
> >>> But both do exist.
> >>>
> >>> Visibility, usefulness or other categories of this kind, which reflect
> >>> a connection to the observer, are irrelevant in physics.
> >>
> >> Everything in physics has a connection to an observer.
> >>
> >
> > This is a totally idiotic requirement.
> >
> > Many things cannot be seen, even if they are real.
> >
> > Seeing is limited to light of a very small frequency band, limited to
> > direct visibility and also limited by scale, time of existence and
> > illumination.
> >
> > We also need somebody to watch.
> >
> > But many things real do not fall into these categories.
> >
> >
> > E.g. very short lived particles are very hard to see.
> >
> > Also invisible are radiowaves, the inside of planet Earth or of black
> > holes.
> >
> > But would you like to shuffel all things under the rug, which are hard
> > to see?
> >
> 
> Also, perhaps our current state of the art technology wrt observing the
> universe from our little earth is damn near pre embryonic wrt the grand
> scheme of things... ;^)


"scheme"??? I don't see any plans at work here, do you? Nothing appears
to me to be..planned.



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