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Re: Einstein synchronisation

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Ross Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On 02/29/2024 09:07 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 02/26/2024 09:12 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Richard Hachel wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem with Einstein's synchronization is that it is defined in a
> >>>> Galilean way.
> >>>> Einstein presupposes in his frame of reference, a flat and absolute
> >>>> present time, and therefore goes very quickly to definition, to move on to
> >>>> the next paragraph.
> >>>> What is he really saying new? Nothing.
> >>>> The great thing is to say:
> >>>> tA'-tA=2AB/c
> >>>> I can also add, in the same sense, that a swallow is a swallow.
> >>>> Then Einstein will commit the enormous relativistic error of immediately
> >>>> and without paying attention to t(AB)=t(BA), a proposition which can only
> >>>> be true for a neutral observer placed at an equal distance from A and B,
> >>>> and having to take into account only identical anisochrony, and perfect
> >>>> simultaneity of the two watches.
> >>>> The equality that he posits is therefore completely false, intellectually
> >>>> false, physically false, for the enormous majority of points in his space
> >>>> that he will take as reference.
> >>>>
> >>>> His synchronization method, but he does not say it, is ONLY valid for a
> >>>> given point P, and the simultaneity of various events occurring in the
> >>>> frame of reference is ONLY valid for this point and not the integrity of
> >>>> the frame of reference.
> >>>>
> >>>> He doesn't explain this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or worse, he doesn't know it.
> >>>>
> >>>> R.H.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nature forgot to synchronize.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nature does not display any...clocks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> The old story is that man, or a woman,
> >> invented time-keeping, humming a tune,
> >> tossing a pile of rocks.
> >>
> >> The sun-dial, is the traditional apparatus.
> >>
> >> Foucault's pendulum, and the Allais pendulum,
> >> both measure not only time, also cosmic alignment.
> >>
> >> An atomic clock lattice detects hand-waving.
> >>
> >> Time symmetry's never been falsified.
> >>
> >> There are no closed time-like curves.
> >>
> >> Einstein's total field theory includes
> >> a clock hypothesis, that nature _is_ a clock.
> >
> >
> > I need a little time to figure out this "nature _is_ a clock" business...
> >
> > in the meantime Ross, you mentioned you 'write software programs'...
> >
> > could you give me the name of one of them so that I can download it and
> > see if I can crack it, get the serial number or extend the trial to
> > forever? It would be fun for me, (of course i will ask ChatGPT to help me
> > with it, we are hacking and cracking friends now).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Can't help you there.
> 
> In the old days what you'd do is put a bit of tape
> over the write-protect tab then write "yes" instead
> of "no" at the right spot and then it would go, ....
> 
> It's like, there was this engineer, and he was an
> electrical engineer, and he was a dwarf, which is
> secondary but it really adds to the human interest,
> so he was a great electrical engineer, and Henry Ford
> said "hey I just installed a huge generator at my plant
> and it's not working so come fix it". So they guy was
> like alright and he trundled over there. He spent a
> few days looking it over and peeking around, he was
> an electrical engineer so he knew how not to electrocute
> himself, so one day he takes a piece of chalk and marks
> one of the panels with the piece of chalk and says
> "Ford, under that panel is your problem". So, some
> guys opened that panel and fixed it there and it fixed it.
> So, Ford says "send me the bill" so the guy sends him a
> bill for $10,000. Now Ford is curious, so he says
> "itemize the bill", so the guy itemizes the bill:
> 
> chalk mark: 5 cents
> knowing where: 9,999.95.
> 
> Been looking at "how does this WebRTC work",
> "how simple is writing an operating system these days",
> still though sort of "implement a Usenet".
> 
> If you want to know about relativity, consult my podcasts,
> https youtube @rossfinlayson, under the "Reading from Einstein",
> is a reading of "Out of My Later Years", the good parts in
> the middle.
> 
> I like the idea of this, "nature _is_ a clock",
> it's usually called "clock hypothesis", and
> what it means is there's a "universal time".
> 
> Einstein has one in his theory called "the time",
> in quotes, it's called ''the time'', ..., one
> has to mime the quotes at the same time.

Okay, I looked at your 'nature clock'..

i see a lot of rocks and fire out there..
and what 'appears' to be different time zones
on different planets...
but where is the machinery behind the clock?

you do know what i mean by machinery? ...the
machinery behind a woman's warm smile.

Can you get past the strong illusion of her warm smile and
show me the machinery behind your nature's clock?

Any kid looking at the face of a clock can tear the clock apart
to see the machinery behind it that makes it run.

Where is the machine behind nature's clock?


I don't see it.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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