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Re: SpaceTime

From hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: SpaceTime
Date 2024-06-03 01:52 +0000
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Richard Hachel wrote:
>
> Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
> >
> >  That is not a valid science.

>  :))

>  And tachyons? Yes?

They are hypothetical until confirmed by experiment, but they
cannot be refuted without experimental evidence.  Bloviating
doesn't count as evidence. 

>>  And they don't violate causality.
>
>  :))
>
> It's impossible.

“When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is
possible,
he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is
impossible, he
is very probably wrong.” -- Arthur C. Clarke

And Dr. Hachel is not even a scientist.  His three Nobels in basket
weaving aren't science, either.

> They will prefer to sink into the absurd and the ridiculous loss of 
> causality.

Nope. DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101 demonstrates that there is no
proof
that they would violate causality.  Try reading something for a change
instead of making pompous and vacuous assertions.

> Note that the speed of neutrinos is c, because their transaction is 
> instantaneous (zero natural time).

Repetition of vacuous thinking is still invalid.

> It is true that if a supernovae explodes, the neutrinos, whose speed is
> 
> not modified by the interactions of intergalactic gases, can arrive 
> slightly before the light (supernovae of 1987).

Three hours, actually, from 168000 light-years away.  Attributing all
of that 3 hours to intergalactic gas is pure speculation.

> But this does not come from the fact that they are faster than light
> (this is impossible)

If scientists stopped when confronted with the impossible, we would not
have flight, medicine, heart surgery, brain surgery, electric lights,
electricity, or dynamite (Nobel prizes).

Dr. Hachel only proves that his only claim to fame is 3 Nobels in
basket
weaving.

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    Re: SpaceTime Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-05-31 09:16 +0200
    Re: SpaceTime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-01 13:35 +0000
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                Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-03 05:23 +0200
                Re: SpaceTime Richard Hachel <richard.hachel@invalid.fr> - 2024-06-04 14:51 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-06-04 19:26 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime Richard Hachel <richard.hachel@invalid.fr> - 2024-06-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-05 04:11 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-05 07:04 +0200
                Re: SpaceTime hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-06-05 11:55 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-05 14:39 +0200
                Re: SpaceTime Richard Hachel <richard.hachel@invalid.fr> - 2024-06-05 10:46 +0000
                Re: SpaceTime Richard Hachel <richard.hachel@invalid.fr> - 2024-06-05 11:00 +0000
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                Re: SpaceTime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-02 11:54 -0700
                Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-02 21:01 +0200
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        Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-01 22:37 +0200
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            Re: SpaceTime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 17:15 -0700
            Re: SpaceTime Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-02 08:18 +0200
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