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Re: energy and mass

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  Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-17 01:14 -0700
    Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 00:29 +1100
      Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-17 10:34 -0700
        Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 15:49 +1100
          Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 00:27 -0700
            Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 21:00 +1100
              Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 11:07 -0700
                Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 11:47 -0700
                  Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 15:14 +1100
                    Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:47 +0100
                      Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:11 +1100
                Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 15:07 +1100
                  Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 23:07 -0700
                    Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:24 +1100
                      Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 09:31 +0100
                        Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 20:38 +1100
                      Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-19 11:54 -0700
                        Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-20 11:59 -0700
                          Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-20 15:28 -0700
                            Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-22 12:12 -0700
                              Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 23:05 +1100
                          Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:23 +1100
                  Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:47 +0100
          Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:32 -0700

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#644093 — Re: energy and mass

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-17 01:14 -0700
SubjectRe: energy and mass
Message-ID<69B90D4A.CB1@ix.netcom.com>
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>
> >>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>> doing all his life.
> >>>
> >>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>> one city to another city...
> >>>
> >>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>
> >>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>
> >>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>> location).
> >>
> >> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>
> >> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>
> >> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >
> > "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >
> > It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >
> > You cut it from and paste it there.
> >
> > Like on a computer..
> > you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> > you...cut-and-paste it
> > to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >
> > Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> 
> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> 
> > You scan each atom
> > delete it. and paste it there.
> 
> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> process in less than a millisecond.
> 
> > spooky at a distance.
> >
> > Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> 
> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?

Yes, you gave us the edvience.

You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
he kept on
doing all his life."


You were refering to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
life.

What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?


In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
of the displaced mass.'

In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
place. 

You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
another place.

"The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
physical laws. 
ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
never completed. 
During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
explosions. "
 

I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestrial mechanics.

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1


but it is not finished...









-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644102

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-18 00:29 +1100
Message-ID<10pbkvs$2u86c$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644093
On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>
>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>> location).
>>>>
>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>
>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>
>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>
>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>
>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>
>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>
>>> Like on a computer..
>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>
>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>
>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>
>>> You scan each atom
>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>
>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>
>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>
>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>
>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> 
> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> 
> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> he kept on doing all his life."
> 
> 
> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> life.
> 
> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?

It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong 
nuclear forces.

> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> of the displaced mass.'
> 
> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> place.

No.

> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> another place.

Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new 
universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible

> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> physical laws.
> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> never completed.
> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> explosions. "

The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.

> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>  
> but it is not finished...

Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, 
you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate 
is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers 
uncomfortably often.

Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different 
places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out 
of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent 
six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger 
sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644116

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-17 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<69B990A7.1129@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644102
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>> location).
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>
> >>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>
> >>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>
> >>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>
> >>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>
> >>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>
> >>> Like on a computer..
> >>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>
> >>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>
> >> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>
> >>> You scan each atom
> >>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>
> >> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>
> >>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>
> >>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>
> >> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >
> > Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >
> > You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> > he kept on doing all his life."
> >
> >
> > You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> > life.
> >
> > What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> 
> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> nuclear forces.
> 
> > In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> > masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> > of the displaced mass.'
> >
> > In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> > place.
> 
> No.
> 
> > You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> > another place.
> 
> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> 
> > "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> > fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> > physical laws.
> > ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> > never completed.
> > During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> > Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> > explosions. "
> 
> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> 
> > I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> > 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >
> > but it is not finished...
> 
> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> uncomfortably often.
> 
> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> 
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...


Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. 
Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportation


The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger 
for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. 

 

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.



and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.



https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1


'beam me up, Scotty.'


i notice you have a Scottish accent...

are you slow?



 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644136

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-18 15:49 +1100
Message-ID<10pdas8$3h168$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644116
On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>
>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>
>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>
>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>
>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>
>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>
>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>
>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
>>>
>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>
>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>
>>>
>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
>>> life.
>>>
>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>
>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
>> nuclear forces.
>>
>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>
>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
>>> place.
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
>>> another place.
>>
>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>
>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
>>> physical laws.
>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
>>> never completed.
>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
>>> explosions. "
>>
>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>
>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
>>>
>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>
>>> but it is not finished...
>>
>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
>> uncomfortably often.
>>
>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> 
> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\

It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having 
half-baked ideas about using it in real life.

> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportation

A quantum state doesn't have any mass.

> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> 
> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> 
> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> 'beam me up, Scotty.'

Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.

> I notice you have a Scottish accent...

Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is 
educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One 
work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I 
don't seem to have picked up his accent.

> are you slow?

My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans 
in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone 
directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who 
farmed bottom land close to a river.

I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. 
All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one 
now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who 
ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide 
University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on 
to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 
patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644139

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-18 00:27 -0700
Message-ID<69BA53EC.676@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644136
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>>>> location).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Like on a computer..
> >>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>>>
> >>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>>>
> >>>>> You scan each atom
> >>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>>>
> >>>>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >>>
> >>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> >>> he kept on doing all his life."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> >>> life.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> >>
> >> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> >> nuclear forces.
> >>
> >>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> >>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> >>> of the displaced mass.'
> >>>
> >>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> >>> place.
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> >>> another place.
> >>
> >> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> >> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> >>
> >>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> >>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> >>> physical laws.
> >>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> >>> never completed.
> >>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> >>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> >>> explosions. "
> >>
> >> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> >>
> >>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> >>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >>>
> >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >>>
> >>> but it is not finished...
> >>
> >> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> >> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> >> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> >> uncomfortably often.
> >>
> >> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> >> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> >> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> >> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> >> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> >
> > It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> 
> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> 
> > Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> > Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportati
> 
> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> 
> > The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> > for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> >
> > https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> >
> > and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> >
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> > 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> 
> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> 
> > I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> 
> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> 
> > are you slow?
> 
> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> 
> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> 
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
don't understand physics.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644141

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-18 21:00 +1100
Message-ID<10pdt44$3n2fa$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644139
On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
>>>>> life.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>
>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>
>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
>>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
>>>>> another place.
>>>>
>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>
>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
>>>>> never completed.
>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>
>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>
>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>
>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>
>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>
>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>
>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>
>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>
>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportati
>>
>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>
>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
>>>
>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>
>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
>>>
>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>
>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>
>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>
>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>
>>> are you slow?
>>
>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>
>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> 
> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> don't understand physics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster

The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB 
manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA 
managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of 
launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical 
concerns to their superiors."

It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and 
warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644152

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-18 11:07 -0700
Message-ID<69BAE9E5.712@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644141
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>>>>>> location).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> >>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You scan each atom
> >>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> >>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> >>>>> life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> >>>>
> >>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> >>>> nuclear forces.
> >>>>
> >>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> >>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> >>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> >>>>> place.
> >>>>
> >>>> No.
> >>>>
> >>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> >>>>> another place.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> >>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> >>>>
> >>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> >>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> >>>>> physical laws.
> >>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> >>>>> never completed.
> >>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> >>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> >>>>> explosions. "
> >>>>
> >>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> >>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but it is not finished...
> >>>>
> >>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> >>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> >>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> >>>> uncomfortably often.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> >>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> >>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> >>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> >>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> >>>
> >>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> >>
> >> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> >> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> >>
> >>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> >>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleporta
> >>
> >> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> >>
> >>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> >>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> >>>
> >>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> >>>
> >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> >>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> >>
> >> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> >>
> >>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> >>
> >> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> >> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> >> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> >> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> >>
> >>> are you slow?
> >>
> >> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> >> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> >> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> >> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> >>
> >> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> >> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> >> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> >> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> >> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> >> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> >> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.

From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman






> >
> > Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> > don't understand physics.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster

> 
> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> concerns to their superiors."
> 
> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> 

"It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.

then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?

I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.


no more bathroom bets.

I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.


You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...






> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#644153

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-18 11:47 -0700
Message-ID<69BAF327.200C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644152
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >
> > On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> > >>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> > >>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> > >>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> > >>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> > >>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> > >>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> > >>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> > >>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> > >>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> > >>>>>>>>> location).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> > >>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> > >>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> > >>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> > >>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> > >>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> > >>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> > >>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> > >>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> > >>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> > >>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> > >>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> You scan each atom
> > >>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> > >>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> > >>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> > >>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> > >>>>> life.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> > >>>> nuclear forces.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> > >>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> > >>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> > >>>>> place.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> > >>>>> another place.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> > >>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> > >>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> > >>>>> physical laws.
> > >>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> > >>>>> never completed.
> > >>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> > >>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> > >>>>> explosions. "
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> > >>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> but it is not finished...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> > >>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> > >>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> > >>>> uncomfortably often.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> > >>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> > >>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> > >>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> > >>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> > >>
> > >> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> > >> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> > >>
> > >>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> > >>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
> > >>
> > >> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> > >>
> > >>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> > >>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> > >>>
> > >>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> > >>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> > >>
> > >> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> > >>
> > >>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> > >>
> > >> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> > >> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> > >> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> > >> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> > >>
> > >>> are you slow?
> > >>
> > >> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> > >> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> > >> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> > >> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> > >> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> > >> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> > >> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> > >> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> > >> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> > >> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> 
> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> 
> > >
> > > Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> > > don't understand physics.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> 
> >
> > The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> > manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> > managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> > launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> > concerns to their superiors."
> >
> > It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> > warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> >
> 
> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> 
> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> 
> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> 
> no more bathroom bets.
> 
> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> 
> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...


Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644161

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-19 15:14 +1100
Message-ID<10pft7c$d4ji$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644153
On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>
>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
>>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
>>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
>>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
>>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>>
>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
>>>>>
>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>>
>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>>
>>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>>
>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
>>
>>  From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>
>>>>
>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>>> don't understand physics.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
>>
>>>
>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>>> concerns to their superiors."
>>>
>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
>>>
>>
>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>>
>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>>
>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>>
>> no more bathroom bets.
>>
>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>>
>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>  
> Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER.

You've clearly seen "The China Syndrome".

It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action to 
be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save 
anybody's life.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644165

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-19 07:47 +0100
Message-ID<189e2b3d9b33a86a$341233$3722891$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#644161
On 3/19/2026 5:14 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction 
>>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It 
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter 
>>>>>>>>>>>> implies
>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb 
>>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy 
>>>>>>>>>> and paste"
>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight 
>>>>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have 
>>>>>>>>>> half a
>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could 
>>>>>>>>>> complete the
>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on 
>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific 
>>>>>>>>> work that
>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working 
>>>>>>>>> on all his
>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and 
>>>>>>>> strong
>>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting 
>>>>>>>>> on other
>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new 
>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to 
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and 
>>>>>>>>> paste it
>>>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of 
>>>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform 
>>>>>>>>> to known
>>>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory 
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the 
>>>>>>>>> Navy's
>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on 
>>>>>>>>> explosives and
>>>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math 
>>>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial 
>>>>>>>>> mechanics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep 
>>>>>>>> enough,
>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your 
>>>>>>>> success rate
>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other 
>>>>>>>> researchers
>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in 
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 
>>>>>>>> million out
>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional 
>>>>>>>> patent
>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much 
>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton 
>>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a 
>>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible 
>>>>>>> to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? 
>>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- 
>>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John 
>>>>>>> F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the 
>>>>>>> foundation for the field of quantum information science, 
>>>>>>> including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ 
>>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion 
>>>>>>> for...teleportation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in 
>>>>>> England. One
>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of 
>>>>>> Slomans
>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a 
>>>>>> Ph.D.
>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever 
>>>>>> vet, who
>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both 
>>>>>> moved on
>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My 
>>>>>> father's 25
>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of 
>>>>>> humility.
>>>
>>>  From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>>>> don't understand physics.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>>>> concerns to their superiors."
>>>>
>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>>>
>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>>>
>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>>>
>>> no more bathroom bets.
>>>
>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>>>
>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>>
>> Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER.
> 
> You've clearly seen "The China Syndrome".
> 
> It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action to 
> be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save 
> anybody's life.

In 2 days you will write the opposite, but
it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're
a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect
some obedience. Right, trash?

> 

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#644166

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-19 18:11 +1100
Message-ID<10pg7k7$ggtm$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644165
On 19/03/2026 5:47 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 3/19/2026 5:14 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman:

<snip>

>> It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action 
>> to be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save 
>> anybody's life.
> 
> In 2 days you will write the opposite, but
> it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're
> a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect
> some obedience. Right, trash?

The third example of the new - or at least slightly modified - insult.
Variety is the spice of life, and you haven't got one.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644159

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-19 15:07 +1100
Message-ID<10pfspv$d4ji$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644152
On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>
>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>
>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleporta
>>>>
>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>
>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>
>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>
>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>
>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>
>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>
>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>
>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> 
>  From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.

Always corrupted into snowman.

> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>> don't understand physics.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> 
>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>> concerns to their superiors."
>>
>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> 
> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.

I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my 
refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.

> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?

It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff 
- pointless paper-shuffling.

> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.

You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a 
crime.

> no more bathroom bets.
> 
> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.

That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have 
to be on tap rather than on top.

> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...

They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business, 
but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger 
demotivator.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644163

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-18 23:07 -0700
Message-ID<69BB92B9.1DB0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644159
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>> location).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> >>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> >>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> >>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> >>>>>>> life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> >>>>>> nuclear forces.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> >>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> >>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> >>>>>>> place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> >>>>>>> another place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> >>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> >>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> >>>>>>> physical laws.
> >>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> >>>>>>> never completed.
> >>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> >>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> >>>>>>> explosions. "
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> >>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> >>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> >>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> >>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> >>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> >>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> >>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> >>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> >>>>
> >>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> >>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> >>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
> >>>>
> >>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> >>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> >>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> >>>>
> >>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> >>>>
> >>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> >>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> >>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> >>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> >>>>
> >>>>> are you slow?
> >>>>
> >>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> >>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> >>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> >>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> >>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> >>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> >>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> >>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> >>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> >>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> >
> >  From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> 
> Always corrupted into snowman.
> 
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> >>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> >>> don't understand physics.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> >
> >> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> >> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> >> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> >> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> >> concerns to their superiors."
> >>
> >> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> >> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> >
> > "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> 
> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
> 
> > then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> 
> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> - pointless paper-shuffling.
> 
> > I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> 
> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> crime.
> 
> > no more bathroom bets.
> >
> > I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> 
> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> to be on tap rather than on top.
> 
> > You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
> 
> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> demotivator.
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney


The internal reality

After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
uncovered a huge gap:

    NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
(extremely optimistic)

    Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
closer to 1 in 100 or even worse

That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
single honest, agreed-upon number—so it certainly wasn’t clearly
communicated to McAuliffe.


She wasn’t told specific odds—and if she had been told the most
realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
time. 



That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...


But, it's okay to look the other way...


Everytime they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
gots mouths to feed.









-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644167

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-19 18:24 +1100
Message-ID<10pg8ck$ggtm$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644163
On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
>>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
>>>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
>>>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
>>>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
>>>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
>>>
>>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>>
>> Always corrupted into snowman.
>>
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>>>> don't understand physics.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
>>>
>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>>>> concerns to their superiors."
>>>>
>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
>>>
>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>>
>> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
>> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
>>
>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>>
>> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
>> - pointless paper-shuffling.
>>
>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>>
>> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
>> crime.
>>
>>> no more bathroom bets.
>>>
>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>>
>> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
>> to be on tap rather than on top.
>>
>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>>
>> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
>> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
>> demotivator.
>> --
>> Bill Sloman, Sydney
> 
> 
> The internal reality
> 
> After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
> uncovered a huge gap:
> 
>      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> (extremely optimistic)
> 
>      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> 
> That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
> single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
> communicated to McAuliffe.

McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the 
years.

> She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
> realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
> the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
> time.
>  
> That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...

Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies 
put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding 
disasters

> But, it's okay to look the other way...

It most certainly isn't

> Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
> got mouths to feed.

Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging 
impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns 
about safety get a lower priority.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644168

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-19 09:31 +0100
Message-ID<189e30f15894acdc$796725$3738624$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#644167
On 3/19/2026 8:24 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>
>>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy 
>>>>>>>>>>> and paste"
>>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight 
>>>>>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have 
>>>>>>>>>>> half a
>>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could 
>>>>>>>>>>> complete the
>>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started 
>>>>>>>>>>> on it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific 
>>>>>>>>>> work that
>>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working 
>>>>>>>>>> on all his
>>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak 
>>>>>>>>> and strong
>>>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting 
>>>>>>>>>> on other
>>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the 
>>>>>>>>>> new location
>>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to 
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and 
>>>>>>>>>> paste it
>>>>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of 
>>>>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform 
>>>>>>>>>> to known
>>>>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field 
>>>>>>>>>> Theory was
>>>>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the 
>>>>>>>>>> Navy's
>>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on 
>>>>>>>>>> explosives and
>>>>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math 
>>>>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial 
>>>>>>>>>> mechanics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep 
>>>>>>>>> enough,
>>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your 
>>>>>>>>> success rate
>>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other 
>>>>>>>>> researchers
>>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in 
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 
>>>>>>>>> million out
>>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional 
>>>>>>>>> patent
>>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much 
>>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton 
>>>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a 
>>>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible 
>>>>>>>> to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? 
>>>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- 
>>>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, 
>>>>>>>> John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid 
>>>>>>>> the foundation for the field of quantum information science, 
>>>>>>>> including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ 
>>>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion 
>>>>>>>> for...teleportation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My 
>>>>>>> accent is
>>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in 
>>>>>>> England. One
>>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
>>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of 
>>>>>>> Slomans
>>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a 
>>>>>>> Ph.D.
>>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - 
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever 
>>>>>>> vet, who
>>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at 
>>>>>>> Adelaide
>>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both 
>>>>>>> moved on
>>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My 
>>>>>>> father's 25
>>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of 
>>>>>>> humility.
>>>>
>>>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>>>
>>> Always corrupted into snowman.
>>>
>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>>>>> don't understand physics.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
>>>>
>>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>>>>> concerns to their superiors."
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
>>>>
>>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>>>
>>> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
>>> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
>>>
>>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>>>
>>> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
>>> - pointless paper-shuffling.
>>>
>>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>>>
>>> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
>>> crime.
>>>
>>>> no more bathroom bets.
>>>>
>>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>>>
>>> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
>>> to be on tap rather than on top.
>>>
>>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>>>
>>> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
>>> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
>>> demotivator.
>>> -- 
>>> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>>
>>
>> The internal reality
>>
>> After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
>> uncovered a huge gap:
>>
>>      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
>> (extremely optimistic)
>>
>>      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
>> closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
>>
>> That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
>> single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
>> communicated to McAuliffe.
> 
> McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the 
> years.
> 
>> She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
>> realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
>> the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
>> time.
>>
>> That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
> 
> Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies 
> put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding 
> disasters
> 
>> But, it's okay to look the other way...
> 
> It most certainly isn't
> 
>> Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
>> got mouths to feed.
> 
> Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging 
> impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns 
> about safety get a lower priority.

In 2 days you will write the opposite, but
it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're
a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect
some obedience. Right, trash?

> 

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#644169

FromBill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Date2026-03-19 20:38 +1100
Message-ID<10pgg76$jdak$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#644168
On 19/03/2026 7:31 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 3/19/2026 8:24 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telling other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navy war ship from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and paste"
>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tight memory
>>>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have half a
>>>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could 
>>>>>>>>>>>> complete the
>>>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific 
>>>>>>>>>>> work that
>>>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working 
>>>>>>>>>>> on all his
>>>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak 
>>>>>>>>>> and strong
>>>>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force 
>>>>>>>>>>> acting on other
>>>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> new location
>>>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to 
>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> paste it
>>>>>>>>>>> another place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
>>>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use 
>>>>>>>>>>> of force
>>>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform 
>>>>>>>>>>> to known
>>>>>>>>>>> physical laws.
>>>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field 
>>>>>>>>>>> Theory was
>>>>>>>>>>> never completed.
>>>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Navy's
>>>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on 
>>>>>>>>>>> explosives and
>>>>>>>>>>> explosions. "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the 
>>>>>>>>>>> math on it
>>>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial 
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig 
>>>>>>>>>> deep enough,
>>>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your 
>>>>>>>>>> success rate
>>>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other 
>>>>>>>>>> researchers
>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in 
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 
>>>>>>>>>> million out
>>>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a 
>>>>>>>>>> provisional patent
>>>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much 
>>>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
>>>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton 
>>>>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
>>>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a 
>>>>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it 
>>>>>>>>> possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a 
>>>>>>>>> distance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? 
>>>>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- 
>>>>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, 
>>>>>>>>> John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
>>>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid 
>>>>>>>>> the foundation for the field of quantum information science, 
>>>>>>>>> including quantum teleportation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ 
>>>>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion 
>>>>>>>>> for...teleportation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
>>>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My 
>>>>>>>> accent is
>>>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in 
>>>>>>>> England. One
>>>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, 
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> are you slow?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of 
>>>>>>>> Slomans
>>>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
>>>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
>>>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got 
>>>>>>>> a Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated 
>>>>>>>> - one
>>>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever 
>>>>>>>> vet, who
>>>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at 
>>>>>>>> Adelaide
>>>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both 
>>>>>>>> moved on
>>>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My 
>>>>>>>> father's 25
>>>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of 
>>>>>>>> humility.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>>>>
>>>> Always corrupted into snowman.
>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
>>>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
>>>>>>> don't understand physics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
>>>>>
>>>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
>>>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
>>>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
>>>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
>>>>>> concerns to their superiors."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
>>>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>>>>
>>>> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
>>>> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
>>>>
>>>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important 
>>>> stuff
>>>> - pointless paper-shuffling.
>>>>
>>>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>>>>
>>>> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not 
>>>> yet a
>>>> crime.
>>>>
>>>>> no more bathroom bets.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>>>>
>>>> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
>>>> to be on tap rather than on top.
>>>>
>>>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>>>>
>>>> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky 
>>>> business,
>>>> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
>>>> demotivator.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>>>
>>>
>>> The internal reality
>>>
>>> After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
>>> uncovered a huge gap:
>>>
>>>      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
>>> (extremely optimistic)
>>>
>>>      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
>>> closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
>>>
>>> That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
>>> single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
>>> communicated to McAuliffe.
>>
>> McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the 
>> years.
>>
>>> She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
>>> realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
>>> the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
>>
>> Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies 
>> put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding 
>> disasters
>>
>>> But, it's okay to look the other way...
>>
>> It most certainly isn't
>>
>>> Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
>>> got mouths to feed.
>>
>> Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging 
>> impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns 
>> about safety get a lower priority.
> 
> In 2 days you will write the opposite, but
> it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're
> a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect
> some obedience. Right, trash?

Posting the same abuse three or four times in succession, this time in a 
context where it really isn't relevant, is classic troll behavior. But - 
as an ignorant idiot - you don't know any better.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#644177

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-19 11:54 -0700
Message-ID<69BC4656.1060@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644167
Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
> On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> >>>>>>>>> life.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> >>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> >>>>>>>>> place.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> >>>>>>>>> another place.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> >>>>>>>>> physical laws.
> >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> >>>>>>>>> never completed.
> >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> >>>>>>>>> explosions. "
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telep
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> are you slow?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> >>>
> >>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> >>
> >> Always corrupted into snowman.
> >>
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> >>>>> don't understand physics.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> >>>
> >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> >>>> concerns to their superiors."
> >>>>
> >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> >>>
> >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> >>
> >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
> >>
> >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> >>
> >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> >> - pointless paper-shuffling.
> >>
> >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> >>
> >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> >> crime.
> >>
> >>> no more bathroom bets.
> >>>
> >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> >>
> >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> >> to be on tap rather than on top.
> >>
> >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
> >>
> >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> >> demotivator.
> >> --
> >> Bill Sloman, Sydney
> >
> >
> > The internal reality
> >
> > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
> > uncovered a huge gap:
> >
> >      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> > (extremely optimistic)
> >
> >      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> >
> > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
> > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
> > communicated to McAuliffe.
> 
> McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the
> years.
> 
> > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
> > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
> > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
> > time.
> >
> > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
> 
> Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies
> put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding
> disasters
> 
> > But, it's okay to look the other way...
> 
> It most certainly isn't
> 
> > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
> > got mouths to feed.
> 
> Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging
> impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns
> about safety get a lower priority.

dats wat i said...you look the other way.


Look at the numbers:

NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000

 Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
 closer to 1 in 100 or even worse

They told the teacher..."safe routine flight".


I would call it...'human error'. She trusted you guys.


They told her, "Don't worry, it's safe...get your fat ass in dat washing machine, you stupid bitch!"


You people are soooo stupid. NASA shows you a picture of a 'blurred hole' and call it a black hole.

And you don't investigate why the picture is a blurred hole.

NASA will tell you..."OH, dats the way it came out!"


When I first saw the photograph..i need to sharpen it! It's BLURRY!

Since I'm an expert in sharpening photos, I can now see what it REALLY looks like.

 

 

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/2


If you show this photo to Ai, (don't metioned it's suppose to be a black hole)

and ask "In what direction are the gravitional waves moving, inward or outward?"

Ai will say, "Outward!"

That means everything is escaping a black hole.












 








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#644205

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-20 11:59 -0700
Message-ID<69BD9920.571A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644177
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >
> > On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> > >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> > >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> > >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> > >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> > >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> > >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> > >>>>>>>>> life.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> > >>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> > >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> > >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> > >>>>>>>>> place.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> No.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> > >>>>>>>>> another place.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> > >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> > >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> > >>>>>>>>> physical laws.
> > >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> > >>>>>>>>> never completed.
> > >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> > >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> > >>>>>>>>> explosions. "
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> > >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> > >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> > >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> > >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> > >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> > >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> > >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> > >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> > >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> > >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+tel
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> > >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> > >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> > >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> > >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> are you slow?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> > >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> > >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> > >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> > >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> > >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> > >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> > >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> > >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> > >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> > >>>
> > >>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> > >>
> > >> Always corrupted into snowman.
> > >>
> > >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> > >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> > >>>>> don't understand physics.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> > >>>
> > >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> > >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> > >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> > >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> > >>>> concerns to their superiors."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> > >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> > >>>
> > >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> > >>
> > >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> > >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
> > >>
> > >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> > >> - pointless paper-shuffling.
> > >>
> > >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> > >>
> > >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> > >> crime.
> > >>
> > >>> no more bathroom bets.
> > >>>
> > >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> > >>
> > >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> > >> to be on tap rather than on top.
> > >>
> > >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
> > >>
> > >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> > >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> > >> demotivator.
> > >> --
> > >> Bill Sloman, Sydney
> > >
> > >
> > > The internal reality
> > >
> > > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
> > > uncovered a huge gap:
> > >
> > >      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> > > (extremely optimistic)
> > >
> > >      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> > > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> > >
> > > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
> > > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
> > > communicated to McAuliffe.
> >
> > McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the
> > years.
> >
> > > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
> > > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
> > > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
> >
> > Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies
> > put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding
> > disasters
> >
> > > But, it's okay to look the other way...
> >
> > It most certainly isn't
> >
> > > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
> > > got mouths to feed.
> >
> > Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging
> > impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns
> > about safety get a lower priority.
> 
> dats wat i said...you look the other way.
> 
> Look at the numbers:
> 
> NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> 
>  Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
>  closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> 
> They told the teacher..."safe routine flight".
> 
> I would call it...'human error'. She trusted you guys.
> 
> They told her, "Don't worry, it's safe...get your fat ass in dat washing machine, you stupid bitch!"
> 
> You people are soooo stupid. NASA shows you a picture of a 'blurred hole' and call it a black hole.
> 
> And you don't investigate why the picture is a blurred hole.
> 
> NASA will tell you..."OH, dats the way it came out!"
> 
> When I first saw the photograph..i need to sharpen it! It's BLURRY!
> 
> Since I'm an expert in sharpening photos, I can now see what it REALLY looks like.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/2
> 
> If you show this photo to Ai, (don't metioned it's suppose to be a black hole)
> 
> and ask "In what direction are the gravitional waves moving, inward or outward?"
> 
> Ai will say, "Outward!"
> 
> That means everything is escaping a black hole.
> 
> 

furthermore, if you download it and look at it in Photoshop, and enlarge
it more...
you see there is no black hole...but a lot of activity all the way down.
https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1

In order to make it a Black Hole, just do a Gaussian Blur: Radius around
29.1 and it is exactly
how NASA present it to you...


but there is no black hole, just less light...swirling waves...all the
way.







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#644207

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-20 15:28 -0700
Message-ID<69BDCA17.3165@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644205
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > >
> > > On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> > > >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> > > >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> > > >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> > > >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> > > >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> > > >>>>>>>>> life.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> > > >>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> > > >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> > > >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> > > >>>>>>>>> place.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> No.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> > > >>>>>>>>> another place.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> > > >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> > > >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> > > >>>>>>>>> physical laws.
> > > >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> > > >>>>>>>>> never completed.
> > > >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> > > >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> > > >>>>>>>>> explosions. "
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> > > >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> > > >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> > > >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> > > >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> > > >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> > > >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> > > >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> > > >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> > > >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> > > >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+t
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> > > >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> > > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> > > >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> > > >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> > > >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> are you slow?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> > > >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> > > >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> > > >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> > > >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> > > >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> > > >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> > > >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> > > >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> > > >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> > > >>
> > > >> Always corrupted into snowman.
> > > >>
> > > >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> > > >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> > > >>>>> don't understand physics.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> > > >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> > > >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> > > >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> > > >>>> concerns to their superiors."
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> > > >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> > > >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
> > > >>
> > > >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> > > >>
> > > >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> > > >> - pointless paper-shuffling.
> > > >>
> > > >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> > > >>
> > > >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> > > >> crime.
> > > >>
> > > >>> no more bathroom bets.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> > > >>
> > > >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> > > >> to be on tap rather than on top.
> > > >>
> > > >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
> > > >>
> > > >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> > > >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> > > >> demotivator.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Bill Sloman, Sydney
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The internal reality
> > > >
> > > > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
> > > > uncovered a huge gap:
> > > >
> > > >      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> > > > (extremely optimistic)
> > > >
> > > >      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> > > > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> > > >
> > > > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
> > > > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
> > > > communicated to McAuliffe.
> > >
> > > McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the
> > > years.
> > >
> > > > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
> > > > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
> > > > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
> > >
> > > Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies
> > > put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding
> > > disasters
> > >
> > > > But, it's okay to look the other way...
> > >
> > > It most certainly isn't
> > >
> > > > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
> > > > got mouths to feed.
> > >
> > > Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging
> > > impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns
> > > about safety get a lower priority.
> >
> > dats wat i said...you look the other way.
> >
> > Look at the numbers:
> >
> > NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> >
> >  Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> >  closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> >
> > They told the teacher..."safe routine flight".
> >
> > I would call it...'human error'. She trusted you guys.
> >
> > They told her, "Don't worry, it's safe...get your fat ass in dat washing machine, you stupid bitch!"
> >
> > You people are soooo stupid. NASA shows you a picture of a 'blurred hole' and call it a black hole.
> >
> > And you don't investigate why the picture is a blurred hole.
> >
> > NASA will tell you..."OH, dats the way it came out!"
> >
> > When I first saw the photograph..i need to sharpen it! It's BLURRY!
> >
> > Since I'm an expert in sharpening photos, I can now see what it REALLY looks like.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696
> >
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1
> >
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/2
> >
> > If you show this photo to Ai, (don't metioned it's suppose to be a black hole)
> >
> > and ask "In what direction are the gravitional waves moving, inward or outward?"
> >
> > Ai will say, "Outward!"
> >
> > That means everything is escaping a black hole.
> >
> >
> 
> furthermore, if you download it and look at it in Photoshop, and enlarge
> it more...
> you see there is no black hole...but a lot of activity all the way down.
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1
> 
> In order to make it a Black Hole, just do a Gaussian Blur: Radius around
> 29.1 and it is exactly
> how NASA present it to you...
> 
> but there is no black hole, just less light...swirling waves...all the
> way.

Okay, you have seen the top view of a black hole...

Here is a sideview of a Black hole...

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2035119648690356476/photo/1



-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#644245

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-22 12:12 -0700
Message-ID<69C03F2C.7C7A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#644207
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the  scientific work that he kept on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location).
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> > > > >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> > > > >>>>>>>>> life.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> What do you think  the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> > > > >>>>>>>> nuclear forces.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> > > > >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> > > > >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> > > > >>>>>>>>> place.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> No.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> > > > >>>>>>>>> another place.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> > > > >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> > > > >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> > > > >>>>>>>>> physical laws.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> > > > >>>>>>>>> never completed.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> > > > >>>>>>>>> explosions. "
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> > > > >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> > > > >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> > > > >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> > > > >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> > > > >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> > > > >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> > > > >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> > > > >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> > > > >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> > > > >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.

> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> > > > >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physic
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> > > > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> > > > >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> > > > >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> > > > >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> are you slow?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> > > > >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> > > > >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> > > > >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> > > > >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> > > > >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> > > > >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> > > > >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> > > > >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> > > > >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>   From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Always corrupted into snowman.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> > > > >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> > > > >>>>> don't understand physics.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> > > > >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> > > > >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> > > > >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> > > > >>>> concerns to their superiors."
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> > > > >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> > > > >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> > > > >> - pointless paper-shuffling.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> > > > >> crime.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> no more bathroom bets.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> > > > >> to be on tap rather than on top.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> > > > >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> > > > >> demotivator.
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Bill Sloman, Sydney
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The internal reality
> > > > >
> > > > > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
> > > > > uncovered a huge gap:
> > > > >
> > > > >      NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> > > > > (extremely optimistic)
> > > > >
> > > > >      Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> > > > > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> > > > >
> > > > > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
> > > > > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly
> > > > > communicated to McAuliffe.
> > > >
> > > > McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the
> > > > years.
> > > >
> > > > > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most
> > > > > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
> > > > > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
> > > >
> > > > Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies
> > > > put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding
> > > > disasters
> > > >
> > > > > But, it's okay to look the other way...
> > > >
> > > > It most certainly isn't
> > > >
> > > > > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
> > > > > got mouths to feed.
> > > >
> > > > Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging
> > > > impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns
> > > > about safety get a lower priority.
> > >
> > > dats wat i said...you look the other way.
> > >
> > > Look at the numbers:
> > >
> > > NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
> > >
> > >  Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
> > >  closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
> > >
> > > They told the teacher..."safe routine flight".
> > >
> > > I would call it...'human error'. She trusted you guys.
> > >
> > > They told her, "Don't worry, it's safe...get your fat ass in dat washing machine, you stupid bitch!"
> > >
> > > You people are soooo stupid. NASA shows you a picture of a 'blurred hole' and call it a black hole.
> > >
> > > And you don't investigate why the picture is a blurred hole.
> > >
> > > NASA will tell you..."OH, dats the way it came out!"
> > >
> > > When I first saw the photograph..i need to sharpen it! It's BLURRY!
> > >
> > > Since I'm an expert in sharpening photos, I can now see what it REALLY looks like.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696
> > >
> > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1
> > >
> > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/2
> > >
> > > If you show this photo to Ai, (don't metioned it's suppose to be a black hole)
> > >
> > > and ask "In what direction are the gravitional waves moving, inward or outward?"
> > >
> > > Ai will say, "Outward!"
> > >
> > > That means everything is escaping a black hole.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > furthermore, if you download it and look at it in Photoshop, and enlarge
> > it more...
> > you see there is no black hole...but a lot of activity all the way down.
> > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1
> >
> > In order to make it a Black Hole, just do a Gaussian Blur: Radius around
> > 29.1 and it is exactly
> > how NASA present it to you...
> >
> > but there is no black hole, just less light...swirling waves...all the
> > way.
> 
> Okay, you have seen the top view of a black hole...
> 
> Here is a sideview of a Black hole...
> 
> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2035119648690356476/photo/1
> 



Now you have to 'ask yourself a question' (not that yous have the
ability to do that)

"Where are the 'other' universe stars and galaxies in the 'Black Hole
image' NASA provided you with????


It seems to be...cropped out. Maybe because they would all show up as
...blurred too!



Somebody in NASA said..."Fucked it! Blurr it...fuck everybody!!"


WE CONTROL THE SCIENCE PRESS!!!!


Why blur it? Because, if you know how to look...there is no black hole
in the picture.


I KNOW HOW TO LOOK! I looked, and there was no black hole in the
picture.


It's very simple:

The Blue Channel is the foundation of all the details..

Just look at this image in Photoshop
https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1

and view the Blue Channel.


no black hole!





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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