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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math |
| Subject | Re: ? ? ? |
| Date | 2024-04-16 07:20 +0200 |
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Am Freitag000005, 05.04.2024 um 09:50 schrieb The Starmaker: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Am 01.03.2024 um 07:25 schrieb Maciej Woźniak: >> >>>> >>>>> The concept of time is actually based on counting events, about which >>>>> we assume, they would occur always with the same frequency. >>>> >>>>> That was the year or the day in ancient times and later the hour and >>>>> the second. >>>> >>>>> Much later men counted the waves in certain kinds of exitations of >>>>> certain atoms. >>>> >>>>> But in all cases a process of counting was meant, where the >>>>> underlying frequency was assumed to be universally constant. >>>> >>>>> But: that is problematic, because actually we don't know, whether >>>>> these frequencies are universally constant or not. >>>> >>>>> This is so, because the second is defined and measured by the same >>>>> process, which frequency we like to measure. >>>> >>>> This all comes down to the age-old question that has been repeatedly >>>> debated on these forums: What is a clock? >>> >>> https://www.bing.com/search?q=clock+picture&form=ANNTH1&refig=7f26d3e3f0dd44458d7e38ba627e82c5&pc=U531 >>> >>> These are, poor halfbrain. >>> >>> >> >> All of these do not show time! >> >> Dates belong to time values, too, because time is not only counting the >> hours, minutes and seconds within a single day. >> >> TH > > > does time flow? how do you 'detect' the flow?? > > oh, oh, i'm running out of time! does time run? > > if arrow of time, where is the bow? The human perception of time isn't time neither. You must not take your own impresions as something real! Everything you think as reality is actually an internal representation of the outer world, which is generated by your brain. Therefore: what you think is not real, but an internal image about the real world. But natural sciences like physics are not about our usual daydreams, but about the real world, hence you should refrain from talking about feelings or emotions in connection with physics. Feelings are a subject of science, too, but not of physics. TH
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