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Re: Some results about unit fractions

From Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net>
Newsgroups sci.logic
Subject Re: Some results about unit fractions
Date 2023-07-01 16:18 -0400
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On 7/1/2023 1:26 PM, WM wrote:
> Jim Burns schrieb am Samstag,
> 1. Juli 2023 um 02:30:17 UTC+2:
>> On 6/30/2023 2:49 PM, WM wrote:
>>> Jim Burns schrieb am Freitag,
>>> 30. Juni 2023 um 20:14:30 UTC+2:
>>>> On 6/30/2023 1:27 PM, WM wrote:

>>>>> Two consecutive actually infinite sets
>>>>> in ℕ are impossible.
>>>>> Increase from 0 to ℵo requires
>>>>> finite intermediate steps 1, 2, 3, ... .
>>>>> Bob does not disappear.
>>>
>>>> Quia ego sic dico
>>>
>>> No, because otherwise
>>> mathematics and even set theory
>>> would lack their logical foundations.
>
>> Each column 1 cell, to begin,
>> holds an X, and
>> all the cells of all the other columns
>> holds a O
>> Bob, an O, is in cell 1/2
>
>> If any cell holds a O
>> it is not after all swaps.
>>
>> Equivalently,
>> if it is after all swaps (all swaps)
>> then no cell holds an O
>
> No *visible* cell holds an O.

The Matrix has
a 1-ended sequence of rows
⟨ ⟨1/1…⟩ ⟨2/1…⟩ ⟨3/1…⟩ ... ⟩
and
a 1-ended sequence of columns
⟨ ⟨1/1…⟩ ⟨1/2…⟩ ⟨1/3…⟩ ... ⟩

Each cell is in one of those rows and
in one of those columns.

There is a 1-ended sequence of swaps
⟨ 1/1↔1/1 1/2↔2/1 2/1↔3/1 ... ⟩

If an O is in any of those cells,
not all of those swaps have been swapped.

If all of those swaps have been swapped,
no O is in any of those cells.

> No O can leave the matrix.
> (That is what you forgot.)

And yet, I keep saying that.

Each individual swap is lossless.
_All the swaps_ are lossy.

What you forget is that
1×1 1-ended is not
reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally large
1×1 2-ended.

> ==> There are invisible cells.

The Matrix has
a 1-ended sequence of rows
⟨ ⟨1/1…⟩ ⟨2/1…⟩ ⟨3/1…⟩ ... ⟩
and
a 1-ended sequence of columns
⟨ ⟨1/1…⟩ ⟨1/2…⟩ ⟨1/3…⟩ ... ⟩

Each cell is in one of those rows and
in one of those columns.

> Simple as that.

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