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Re: Instead scopes

From	Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Instead scopes
Date	2024-09-01 17:55 +0000
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john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>:
>>> 
>>>> It's lot easier and quicker to bread-board a circuit in LTSpice than it
>>>> is to wire up a test circuit, but what that means is that you need to
>>>> make fewer real circuits and they are a lot more likely to work when tested.
>>>> 
>>>> That, on it's own, is enough to explain why labs look different today
>>>> than they did in the dark ages.
>>> 
>>> All it explains is boeings falling apart and astronuts ending up stuck at the ISS
>>> and no moonlanding from the US, not even a probe.
>>> Slimulations are _not_ realty and never will be.
>> 
>> But they can capture useful parts of reality, if you know what you are 
>> doing.
>> 
>> John Larkin's simulated inductors tend not to have any parallel capacitance.
> 
> The trick is to know when it matters. ESR and core loss are usually
> more important.
> 
> I designed this surface-mount inductor for my Pockels Cell driver,
> after several tries using commercial parts. They all smoked.
> 
> It's wound on a specially marked Sharpie pen that we have carefully
> reserved.

It better have a regular calibration schedule, or your semiconductor
customers may give you the raised eyebrow. 

Cheers 

Phil Hobbs 

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs  Principal Consultant  ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics  Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:40 -0400
  Re:Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:48 -0400
    Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-27 15:07 +0000
      Re: Instead scopes wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2024-08-29 12:24 -0700
        Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:42 +0000
    Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:30 -0700
  Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:04 -0700
    Re: Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 14:55 -0400
      Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 19:23 -0700
        Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 04:28 +0000
          Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 08:08 -0700
            Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 15:21 +0000
              Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 09:32 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 05:46 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 06:55 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 07:16 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 00:43 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 08:49 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:10 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:21 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:47 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 06:47 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 07:13 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 08:29 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:08 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 01:39 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:18 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 15:40 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 06:53 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 02:11 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 18:22 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-31 07:38 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 17:45 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 11:06 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 21:38 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 12:41 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 01:56 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:34 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 16:54 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 10:37 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 23:28 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 07:09 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 02:20 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:32 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:48 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:53 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:13 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:31 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:11 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-01 17:55 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 15:53 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:17 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 17:43 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 19:49 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:56 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:52 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:45 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:20 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 10:02 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 15:25 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 14:57 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 22:32 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:41 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:30 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:50 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-05 16:54 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:51 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:47 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:36 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:39 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-09 19:51 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2024-09-09 22:24 +0200
                Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-09 22:15 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:40 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:27 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:15 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:50 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-08-29 21:50 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:24 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 17:59 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:44 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 20:14 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2024-08-31 17:43 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 16:40 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:06 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:52 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-29 20:23 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:59 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:17 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:14 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:03 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:03 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 01:43 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:57 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 15:15 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 07:36 +0000
              Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-28 17:41 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-28 13:05 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:15 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 16:44 -0700
  Re: Instead scopes Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2024-09-09 14:57 -0700

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