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Re: Instead scopes

From Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Instead scopes
Date 2024-08-29 05:46 +0000
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On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Aug 2024 09:32:58 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
><ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>
>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
>>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>>>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any
>>>>>>> good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a
>>>>>>> Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he
>>>>>>> likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Other than the lack of software features,  the 200mhz bw for 350
>>>>>> dollars is intriguing. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds pretty good to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's missing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the 500 uV/div.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope
>>>>for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has
>>>>all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work
>>>>from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that
>>>>feels like relic next to those DHOs.
>>> 
>>> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz
>>> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz)
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0
>>> 
>>> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler.
>>
>>I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :)
>
>At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have
>half a million dollars worth of sampling heads.
>
>The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but
>the old B+W screens photograph better.
>
>I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies.
>
>The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on
>transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR.
>
>It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be
>completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity.

oops!

Then what DO they know?

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Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:40 -0400
  Re:Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:48 -0400
    Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-27 15:07 +0000
      Re: Instead scopes wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2024-08-29 12:24 -0700
        Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:42 +0000
    Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:30 -0700
  Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:04 -0700
    Re: Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 14:55 -0400
      Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 19:23 -0700
        Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 04:28 +0000
          Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 08:08 -0700
            Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 15:21 +0000
              Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 09:32 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 05:46 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 06:55 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 07:16 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 00:43 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 08:49 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:10 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:21 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:47 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 06:47 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 07:13 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 08:29 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:08 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 01:39 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:18 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 15:40 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 06:53 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 02:11 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 18:22 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-31 07:38 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 17:45 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 11:06 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 21:38 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 12:41 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 01:56 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:34 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 16:54 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 10:37 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 23:28 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 07:09 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 02:20 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:32 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:48 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:53 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:13 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:31 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:11 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-01 17:55 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 15:53 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:17 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 17:43 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 19:49 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:56 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:52 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:45 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:20 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 10:02 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 15:25 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 14:57 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 22:32 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:41 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:30 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:50 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-05 16:54 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:51 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:47 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:36 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:39 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-09 19:51 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2024-09-09 22:24 +0200
                Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-09 22:15 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:40 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:27 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:15 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:50 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-08-29 21:50 +0100
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:24 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 17:59 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:44 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 20:14 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2024-08-31 17:43 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 16:40 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:06 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:52 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-29 20:23 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:59 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:17 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:14 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:03 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:03 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 01:43 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:57 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 15:15 +1000
                Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 07:36 +0000
              Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-28 17:41 +0000
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-28 13:05 -0700
                Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:15 -0400
                Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 16:44 -0700
  Re: Instead scopes Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2024-09-09 14:57 -0700

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