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| From | Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Instead scopes |
| Date | 2024-08-28 17:41 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: > john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn >> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid >>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin >>>>>> Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b >>>>>> ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We >>>>>> like the Rigols.I recently acquired a >>>>>> Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and >>>>>> gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has >>>>>> an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou >>>>>> out of nightmare states. >>>>> >>>>> Other than the lack of software features, the 200mhz bw for 350 >>>>> dollars is intriguing. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> It sounds pretty good to me. >>>> >>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf >>>> >>>> What's missing? >>>> >>>> I like the 500 uV/div. >>> >>> If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope >>> for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has >>> all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work >>> from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that >>> feels like relic next to those DHOs. >> >> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz >> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz) >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0 >> >> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler. > > I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :) > >>> I don't have any relation to Rigol, just have DHO924S as a go-to scope on my >>> bench and DHO814 for use as an advanced multimeter wherever I need a >>> portable one. I like them and I can run them in a web browser if needed. >> >> I bought the Siglent as a gift, and I was curious about it. >> >>> >>> I do have an advanced LeCroy WR640Zi with all options for serious jobs -- it >>> is 40GS/s 4GHz bandwidth instrument with all features imaginable -- but I >>> rarely power it up. It makes a noise like a jet at takeoff (Rigol DHO is >>> very quite) and it is 8-bit so what you get on the screen looks ugly >>> comparing with 12-bit DHO. DHO924 covers 99% of real world debugging so >>> LeCroy is mostly gathering dust... >> >> So is ours! It cost $50K. It doesn't make much sense and there is >> basically no support. It doesn't make sense to them either. > > Yep, all those features are nice but very rarely needed in the real life. Next to my bench, I have a couple of TDS 784As, a TDS 694C, an 11801C, and an 11802 that JL kindly donated when I went out on my own, lo these fifteen years ago. Also several SD-14s and SD-24s, plus at least one of all the other heads except the SD-32. I use them all regularly. My favorite is the 694C—3GHz, 10GSa/s simultaneously on all four channels. It’s 50 ohms only, but I also have the matching 4GHz FET probes. A 12-bit scope might be useful if the ENOB is anything like that, but I have doubts, especially in a 250 MHz bandwidth. Cheers Phil Hobbs Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:40 -0400
Re:Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 10:48 -0400
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-27 15:07 +0000
Re: Instead scopes wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2024-08-29 12:24 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:42 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:30 -0700
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 09:04 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> - 2024-08-27 14:55 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-27 19:23 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 04:28 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 08:08 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2024-08-28 15:21 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-28 09:32 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 05:46 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 06:55 -0700
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 07:16 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 00:43 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-29 08:49 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:10 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:21 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:47 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 06:47 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 07:13 -0700
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-30 08:29 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:08 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 01:39 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:18 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 15:40 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 06:53 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 02:11 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-30 18:22 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-31 07:38 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 17:45 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 11:06 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 21:38 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 12:41 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 01:56 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:34 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 16:54 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 10:37 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 23:28 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 07:09 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 02:20 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:32 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:48 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:53 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:13 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:31 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:11 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-01 17:55 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 15:53 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 13:17 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-01 17:43 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-01 19:49 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-02 02:56 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-02 17:52 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:45 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:20 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 10:02 -0400
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 15:25 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 14:57 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-09-02 22:32 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:41 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-03 15:30 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-04 07:50 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-05 16:54 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-03 11:39 -0700
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:51 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:47 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-02 08:36 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2024-09-02 12:39 -0400
Re: Instead scopes piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-09 19:51 +0100
Re: Instead scopes Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2024-09-09 22:24 +0200
Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-09 22:15 +0100
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:40 -0700
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-09-09 14:27 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:15 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:50 -0700
Re: Instead scopes liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-08-29 21:50 +0100
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:24 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 17:59 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:44 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-31 20:14 +0000
Re: Instead scopes ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2024-08-31 17:43 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 16:40 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-08-29 16:06 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:52 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-29 20:23 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 11:59 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-30 14:17 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-30 10:14 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-08-31 16:03 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-08-31 07:03 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 01:43 +1000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-31 11:57 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-01 15:15 +1000
Re: Instead scopes Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-01 07:36 +0000
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-28 17:41 +0000
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-28 13:05 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2024-08-29 19:15 -0400
Re: Instead scopes john larkin <jl@650pot.com> - 2024-08-29 16:44 -0700
Re: Instead scopes Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2024-09-09 14:57 -0700
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