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| Date | 2026-02-02 13:47 -0500 |
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| Subject | Re: AI Will Create More Jobs Than It Eliminates By 2027 |
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
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| From | bitrex <user@example.net> |
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On 2/2/2026 1:05 PM, john larkin wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 04:38:40 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> > wrote: > >> Not sure I really believe that... >> >> <https://content.techgig.com/career-advice/ai-job-creation-outpaces-job-loss-by-2027-gartner-report/articleshow/125430751.cms> >> >> But, do imagine all of the "low hanging fruit" will disappear. >> Which will likely include most entry level positions. >> >> I don't think folks have thought this through, completely. Entry >> level jobs do more than bring folks up to speed on the technology >> and their job rolls. But, also, how an organization works and >> expectations that must be met (even those that aren't spelled >> out in an employee handbook). >> >> I recall a company I worked for transitioning to JIT manufacturing. >> EVERYONE went to training (even the line workers). Because the >> technology was a tiny part of the transformation -- the mindset >> was the biggest hurdle to overcome. "If you need an item in >> 3 hours, then EXPECT it in 3 hours (don't pad your requirement >> to *4* hours!)" >> >> I also see lots of PRACTICAL skill set deficiencies -- things >> you can't teach other than at *the* job (not *a* job). E.g., >> you may not have access to the resources that you "need" at >> the times you would LIKE to have them! How do you dynamically >> adjust your workload so you're not unproductive during those times? >> >> Software folks will have it particularly hard because they likely >> won't know the range of problems that they will have to address >> and likely will have little application domain knowledge to ease the >> way forward; if you can't tell a chatbot WHAT to write, then the >> code it generates will be no better than what YOU would have written. >> >> I imagine similar issues in other fields. The "apprentice level" >> will be elided and an emphasis on "journeymen" and "masters". >> For them, AI will be a blessing as they won't have to rely on >> inexperienced "apprentices" to do all the grunt work! And, >> spend their time looking for all the familiar problems that >> will likely be in those "products". >> >> This was paarticularly amusing: >> "Seventy-four per cent of CIOs are either losing money or breaking even >> on their AI investments." >> So, maybe the CIOs are the first ones that should be replaced? > > This morning's Register is all AI. > > https://www.theregister.com/ > > This is a crazy fad, dot.bomb all over again. > > > > John Larkin > Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center > Lunatic Fringe Electronics It's pretty useful for debugging software, I can feed it a few hundred lines of code and it can find the missing brace that's causing a cryptic C error message much faster than I can. It's also pretty good at auto-generating documentation. Who likes writing documentation?! It's a good academic-to-English translator. A number of textbooks and whitepapers on e.g. physics and mathematics either just aren't very well-written or make certain assumptions about the reader's background and leave out steps, and GPT is adept at filling in the blanks for the confused. Two years ago GPT really stunk at math but it's come a ways and it makes a pretty good ad-hoc computer algebra system. It's sort of remarkable that it can do this without actually connecting to a "real" CAS on the back end, as I understand it the transformer algorithm/neural network somehow constructs a rudimentary CAS out of nothing on-the-fly, which is pretty remarkable when you think about it. Example: "I would like a resistor divider made up of 5 resistors in series, grounded at one end, and with some voltage going into the series string. Please devise constraints on the values to produce outputs at the taps where each output starting from the bottom, is approximately double the previous. Then select 1% standard tolerance values for a total string resistance of 100k." Output: 6.34k, 6.34k, 12.7k, 24.9k, 49.9k. Looks good to me.. However it's kind of terrible for more free-form electronics design tasks and will often lead you astray about very simple circuits without close supervision.
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Re: AI Will Create More Jobs Than It Eliminates By 2027 john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-06 03:56 -0800
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Re: AI Will Create More Jobs Than It Eliminates By 2027 bitrex <user@example.net> - 2026-02-02 14:11 -0500
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