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From Ian Cordasco <graffatcolmingov@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: I've been removed from the Python team
Date Thu, 01 Oct 2015 00:50:03 +0200
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue <becue@crans.org> wrote:
> On mer. 30 sept. 2015 à 23:13:26, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30]
>> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team.
>>
>> DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes
>>
>> > is an over reaction and that it should be reverted.
>>
>> I talked with you many times in private about your involvement in the
>> teams over last ~3 years and since I kind of forced other admins into
>> accepting you, I also take all the blame for removing you.
>> As I said in the private mail earlier today, if you still want to work
>> with me, I'm happy to review / sponsor your commits in DPMT or help with
>> any problems you might have with tools I wrote.
>
> Dear Piotr,
>
> Even if I'm not in the team and thus I do not decide of anything, I
> wonder if that's an appropriate answer, regarding the initial trouble.
>
> We are currently talking about preventing Thomas to maintain his
> packages that has DPMT as maintainer, because he uploaded something in
> experimental, which is neither a release, nor a distro of any kind.
>
> Considering the potential trouble it'll lead to (as for an example it'll
> probably send my attempt to package mailman3 to nowhere), and the
> potential bad consequences for python team (some packages no longer
> maintained, etc), does it worth it?
>
> --
> PEB

Pierre,

I'm new to the team, mailing list, etc. (honestly, I never had a
chance to formally introduce myself to everyone) but it looks as if
Piotr has had several instances in the past where he's had to
discipline Thomas. I doubt this is an action that Piotr took lightly.
Further, I doubt those packages will suddenly go unmaintained.

Please continue working on mailman3, it will benefit the community far
more than the outcome of this apparent disciplinary action.

Cheers,
Ian

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  Re: I've been removed from the Python team Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2015-09-30 21:50 +0200
    Re: I've been removed from the Python team Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2015-09-30 22:40 +0200
  Re: I've been removed from the Python team Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-09-30 23:20 +0200
    Re: I've been removed from the Python team Pierre-Elliott Bécue <becue@crans.org> - 2015-10-01 00:10 +0200
      Re: I've been removed from the Python team Pierre-Elliott Bécue <becue@crans.org> - 2015-10-01 00:50 +0200
        Re: I've been removed from the Python team Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-01 01:10 +0200
      Re: I've been removed from the Python team Ian Cordasco <graffatcolmingov@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 00:50 +0200
      Re: I've been removed from the Python team Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2015-10-01 01:20 +0200
      Re: I've been removed from the Python team Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-01 08:20 +0200
        Re: I've been removed from the Python team Pierre-Elliott Bécue <becue@crans.org> - 2015-10-01 14:10 +0200
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            Re: I've been removed from the Python team Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 14:50 +0200
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