Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Ian Cordasco Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: I've been removed from the Python team Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 00:50:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre=2DElliott_B=C3=A9cue?= X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Sep 30 22:42:22 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-qg0-x22f.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NSFM+r7GisC9QtRF08piElLQra193QM76nzwO8VUuNs=; b=qrNOg1QQ7mkx6KjGbaP/zRtC5Zf52XtT/1AqAgfKjdy5SO31rClaboX6ve1/GVvB/f 4eL0/GvmIiohBV2Y72oQQbil204Vqt941uOkAUWcyZV1A7AB56U1Ao5Ml9SyY4fahudw sUMDdOGy1N4y0uAn3uFNLddexUdt8AhdsdJG1cblFDi1Ll/n5ZXjCiMN4JtLRu21iZvX Tm0abYOicwKXgwWOpC7YjlUkfH31/LabA1xHmQO2BPrKlQERukvxSeQQt0cb4qyttZbo 4iCIaB/0xXb6DzNxb6N4yK7fU55PRdaS5VN8eg1tMzkWIKY6d1IQVgq3RFI+i0+WMYZB pnGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.92.54 with SMTP id a51mr7622700qge.105.1443651955933; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12698 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAN-Kwu208gc2sM20P5sR7c9qn-MQ7kvGr+bjhOhM_u8HpRze3A@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 47 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:25:55 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <560C3ACD.9000905@debian.org> <20150930211326.GC4806@p1otr.com> <20150930220414.GO7828@crans.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7388 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Pierre-Elliott B=C3=A9cue wrote: > On mer. 30 sept. 2015 =C3=A0 23:13:26, Piotr O=C5=BCarowski wrote: >> [Thomas Goirand, 2015-09-30] >> > Piotr decided to remove me from the Python team. >> >> DPMT and PAPT to be precise, yes >> >> > is an over reaction and that it should be reverted. >> >> I talked with you many times in private about your involvement in the >> teams over last ~3 years and since I kind of forced other admins into >> accepting you, I also take all the blame for removing you. >> As I said in the private mail earlier today, if you still want to work >> with me, I'm happy to review / sponsor your commits in DPMT or help with >> any problems you might have with tools I wrote. > > Dear Piotr, > > Even if I'm not in the team and thus I do not decide of anything, I > wonder if that's an appropriate answer, regarding the initial trouble. > > We are currently talking about preventing Thomas to maintain his > packages that has DPMT as maintainer, because he uploaded something in > experimental, which is neither a release, nor a distro of any kind. > > Considering the potential trouble it'll lead to (as for an example it'll > probably send my attempt to package mailman3 to nowhere), and the > potential bad consequences for python team (some packages no longer > maintained, etc), does it worth it? > > -- > PEB Pierre, I'm new to the team, mailing list, etc. (honestly, I never had a chance to formally introduce myself to everyone) but it looks as if Piotr has had several instances in the past where he's had to discipline Thomas. I doubt this is an action that Piotr took lightly. Further, I doubt those packages will suddenly go unmaintained. Please continue working on mailman3, it will benefit the community far more than the outcome of this apparent disciplinary action. Cheers, Ian