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Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions

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On 18.02.25 19:41, M. Zhou wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-02-18 at 09:50 -0800, Diane Trout wrote:
>>
>> Do you have any ideas of what could be done to help get a version of
>> llvmlite that works with numba into Debian?
> 
> No idea. I'm keeping an eye on upstream release but the only option
> I can see to make it work is to depend on the LLVM version that does
> not exist in unstable.

I don't understand why the release team insists on having only a limited 
number of LLVM versions in a release.  First, they actively make it 
difficult to introduce new LLVM versions, filing RC issues that hinder 
new versions entering testing, then they limit the number of LLVM 
versions. What is gained by this?  A disservice to Debian's users.

I had asked both the Debian and Ubuntu security teams, if they had to 
act on LLVM in past releases, and they both confirmed that there were no 
actions.  So why showing this stubborn behavior?

You also could vendorize the llvm version into llvmlite, or at least 
shrink down the Debian LLVM packaging to only ship packages needed by 
llvmlite.

Fyi, I kept the LLVM 15 packages in Ubuntu to still ship llvmlite. See
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/768702530/llvm-toolchain-15_1%3A15.0.7-15build1_1%3A15.0.7-15ubuntu1.diff.gz

Matthias

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llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-02-18 19:20 +0100
  Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-02-18 20:00 +0100
    Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2025-02-18 21:00 +0100
      Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2025-02-18 21:20 +0100
    Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-03-03 05:00 +0100
      Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2025-03-18 14:30 +0100
        Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-03-19 07:20 +0100
    Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-04-09 08:10 +0200
      Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Nicholas D Steeves <sten@debian.org> - 2025-04-10 03:00 +0200
        Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-04-10 06:10 +0200
      Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-04-10 03:20 +0200
        Re: llvmlite, numba, and llvm versions Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2025-04-10 06:20 +0200

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