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Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye

From Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.java
Subject Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye
Date 2020-11-18 22:30 +0100
Message-ID <BcDbz-1xp-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <BchkK-5v4-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <BctOV-4so-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <BcB06-jY-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <BchkK-5v4-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <BcB06-jY-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 11/18/20 8:03 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:20:37PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:

>> For OpenJDK there are two other possibilities, which would require approval by
>> release managers / stable release managers.
>>
>>  - openjdk-16 will be released in April 2021, which is expected
>>    before the bullseye release. Shipping openjdk-16 instead of
>>    openjdk-15 would have the advantage that you are able to build
>>    openjdk-17 directly, without having to build openjdk-17 (LTS).
>>
>>    This would require a feature freeze exception for bullseye.
>>
>>  - package a snapshot of openjdk-17 (in April/May 2021), and
>>    only ship openjdk-17 in bullseye.   In that case, update to
>>    the final openjdk-17 release in Oct 2021 as a stable release
>>    update, or as a security update.
>>
>>    This would require a feature freeze exception for bullseye.
>>
>>    After the bullseye release, it would require an approval of
>>    the stable release managers, or approval by the security
>>    team as a security update.  I'm not saying that this package
>>    should see constant security support, but it is likely
>>    that openjdk-17 sees extended support upstream.
> 
> New OpenJDK versions tend to cause both buildtime and runtime breakages 
> in reverse dependencies, some of them hard to resolve and requiring 
> updates to new upstream versions which in turn require new dependencies
> that might not even be in Debian.

New upstream versions likely do that, that's not an attribute of OpenJDK.

What's your point?

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Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 12:30 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2020-11-18 13:40 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 14:00 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 14:00 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 14:10 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-11-18 20:00 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 20:00 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 20:10 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 22:30 +0100
      Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2020-11-18 22:40 +0100
        Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-11-19 20:00 +0100
          Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2020-11-19 20:30 +0100

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