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Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye

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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 11/18/20 8:03 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > New OpenJDK versions tend to cause both buildtime and runtime breakages
> > in reverse dependencies, some of them hard to resolve and requiring
> > updates to new upstream versions which in turn require new dependencies
> > that might not even be in Debian.
>
> New upstream versions likely do that, that's not an attribute of OpenJDK.

Which is why new upstream versions _generally_ don’t end up in stable.

> What's your point?

I think the point is about packages with the JDK in Build-Depends.

The JDK has two use cases, one is people using it as JRE or JDK to
independently develop software, the other is using it in B-D to build
Debian packages (usually via default-jdk-headless).

Making 17 available as the latter is certainly a no-go. Maybe that
was what Adrian’s point was.

I think your point is about making it available as the former, and
so that people can test their things with it already, and to allow
backporting packages that actually do need it. I think that is a
good thing but perhaps bullseye-backports is indeed the better place
for it (especially if the copying of binary packages into the suite
to bootstrap is possible).

I think nobody wants to switch default-jdk to 17 or even not ship
11 at all any more or stop supporting it during bullseye’s lifetime.
Maybe that also was too implicit?

bye,
//mirabilos
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Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 12:30 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2020-11-18 13:40 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 14:00 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 14:00 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-11-18 14:10 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-11-18 20:00 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 20:00 +0100
  Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 20:10 +0100
    Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-11-18 22:30 +0100
      Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2020-11-18 22:40 +0100
        Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-11-19 20:00 +0100
          Bug#975016: OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2020-11-19 20:30 +0100

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