Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!news.dns-netz.com!news.freedyn.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Matthias Klose Newsgroups: linux.debian.bugs.dist,linux.debian.devel.release,linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Bug#975016: Python 2 / OpenJDK 15 support state for Bullseye Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:30:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Adrian Bunk X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-bugs-dist-request@lists.debian.org Wed Nov 18 21:27:10 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 Reply-To: Matthias Klose , 975016@bugs.debian.org Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-Cc: Holger Levsen X-Debian-Pr-Message: followup 975016 X-Debian-Pr-Package: debian-security-support X-Debian-Pr-Keywords: moreinfo X-Debian-Pr-Source: debian-security-support X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 10; hammy, 150; neutral, 72; spammy, 0. spammytokens: hammytokens:0.000-+--H*F:U*doko, 0.000-+--H*RU:sk:einhorn, 0.000-+--H*r:sk:einhorn, 0.000-+--H*r:doko@debian.org, 0.000-+--Hx-spam-relays-external:sk:einhorn Old-X-Envelope-From: doko@debian.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Debian-Message: from BTS X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1633264 List-ID: List-URL: Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 34 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Moritz Muehlenhoff , 975016@bugs.debian.org, Debian Release , Debian Java Liste X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:22:46 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <19fd8bf3-748e-f56f-ec8d-87fd5c5fab54@debian.org> X-Original-References: <160565089338.4090.11133710586870120280.reportbug@hullmann.westfalen.local> <20201118190322.GA32676@localhost> <160565089338.4090.11133710586870120280.reportbug@hullmann.westfalen.local> <20201118190322.GA32676@localhost> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.bugs.dist:1033316 linux.debian.devel.release:98402 linux.debian.maint.java:11920 On 11/18/20 8:03 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:20:37PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: >> For OpenJDK there are two other possibilities, which would require approval by >> release managers / stable release managers. >> >> - openjdk-16 will be released in April 2021, which is expected >> before the bullseye release. Shipping openjdk-16 instead of >> openjdk-15 would have the advantage that you are able to build >> openjdk-17 directly, without having to build openjdk-17 (LTS). >> >> This would require a feature freeze exception for bullseye. >> >> - package a snapshot of openjdk-17 (in April/May 2021), and >> only ship openjdk-17 in bullseye. In that case, update to >> the final openjdk-17 release in Oct 2021 as a stable release >> update, or as a security update. >> >> This would require a feature freeze exception for bullseye. >> >> After the bullseye release, it would require an approval of >> the stable release managers, or approval by the security >> team as a security update. I'm not saying that this package >> should see constant security support, but it is likely >> that openjdk-17 sees extended support upstream. > > New OpenJDK versions tend to cause both buildtime and runtime breakages > in reverse dependencies, some of them hard to resolve and requiring > updates to new upstream versions which in turn require new dependencies > that might not even be in Debian. New upstream versions likely do that, that's not an attribute of OpenJDK. What's your point?