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Subject	horribe developer experience to get bug reports while buying bread (Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12)
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 03:31:00PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > This looks like a kernel driver bug. The system should not crash if
> > some required firmware is missing.
> Sure.  But it will. Because no one ever tests this.  It's not an
> interesting use case for anyone writing a driver.
> 
> This bug might ave been there for a long time, and it might never
> disappear.  Who should report it? 

appearantly not you: sending a mail to a mailing list is not the same
as reporting a bug properly in a bug tracker.

if bugs are not reported as such, complaining that those bugs are not
fixed looks a bit.. unfortunate.

please file bugs.

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	Holger

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  Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-13 15:00 +0200
    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 15:50 +0200
      horribe developer experience to get bug reports while buying bread  (Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad X11  Carbon Gen12) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2026-04-13 20:40 +0200
  Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 16:10 +0200
    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2026-04-13 18:00 +0200
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    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-13 18:00 +0200

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