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Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12

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On 13/04/2026 at 12:56, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> 
> First boot, after what I perceived as a successful install, resulted in
> a black screen with a frozen cursor on top left.  No response to any key
> press.  Hard power off was the only way out.
> 
> Booting in recovery mode and installing firmware-intel-graphics fixed
> the problem.

This looks like a kernel driver bug. The system should not crash if some 
required firmware is missing.

> This is NOT a question about non-free firmware blobs.  I'm fine with
> asking users to explictly install those.  The problem is that there was
> no such question, and the system was so broken without the firmware that
> most users are unable to make that choice even if they knew about it.

Which question should be asked ?

By default, the installer (precisely the hw-detect component) tries to 
find out which firmware packages are needed based on device modalias and 
install them automatically. Installer logs in /var/log/installer may 
provide information about why this failed.

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Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 13:30 +0200
  Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-13 15:00 +0200
    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 15:50 +0200
      horribe developer experience to get bug reports while buying bread  (Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad X11  Carbon Gen12) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2026-04-13 20:40 +0200
  Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 16:10 +0200
    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2026-04-13 18:00 +0200
      Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-13 18:40 +0200
        Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 20:20 +0200
          Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-26 20:20 +0200
      Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a  Thinkpad X11 Carbon Gen12 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2026-04-13 21:10 +0200
    Re: Horrible user experience with fresh trixie install on a Thinkpad  X11 Carbon Gen12 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2026-04-13 18:00 +0200

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