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| From | olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory |
| Subject | Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Honest Dialogue ? |
| Date | 2024-07-21 08:50 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 7/21/2024 4:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 13:28:36 +0000, olcott said:
>
>> On 7/20/2024 3:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-19 14:39:25 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 7/19/2024 3:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You apparently mean that no HHHᵢ can simulate the corresponding
>>>>> DDDᵢ to
>>>>> its termination?
>>>>
>>>> No I don't mean that at all that incorrectly allocates the error
>>>> to the emulator.
>>>
>>> Anyway you did not say that some HHHᵢ can simulate the corresponding
>>> DDDᵢ
>>> to its termination. And each DDDᵢ does terminate, whether simulated
>>> or not.
>>
>> *Until you quit lying about this we cannot have an honest dialog*
>
> I don't believe that you can have a honest dialog, at least not without
> a chairman who wants to and can keep the dialog honest.
>
void DDD()
{
HHH(DDD);
return;
}
When N steps of DDD are emulated by pure function HHH according
to the semantics of the x86 language then N steps are emulated correctly.
The subscripts to HHH and DDD pairs are each element of
the set of positive integers ℤ+
When we examine the infinite set of every HHH/DDD pair
such that:
HHH₁ one step of DDD₁ is correctly emulated by HHH₁.
HHH₂ two steps of DDD₂ are correctly emulated by HHH₂.
HHH₃ three steps of DDD₃ are correctly emulated by HHH₃.
...
HHHₙ n steps of DDDₙ are correctly emulated by HHHₙ.
Then DDD correctly simulated by any pure function HHH cannot
possibly reach its own return instruction and halt, therefore
every HHH is correct to reject its DDD as non-halting.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Honest Dialogue ? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-21 12:38 +0300
Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Honest Dialogue ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-21 08:50 -0500
Re: Liar detector:Peter Olcott --- Honest Dialogue ? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-21 13:52 -0400
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Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Honest Dialogue ? --- Infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-22 09:13 -0500
Re: Infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-22 14:32 +0000
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Re: Infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs --- truisms "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-22 19:45 +0200
Re: Infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs --- truisms olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-22 12:51 -0500
Re: Infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs --- truisms "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-22 20:16 +0200
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