Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks?

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From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
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Subject	Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks?
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In message <aSRrH.889498$AN2.12718@fx46.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2020-11-13 19:54, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <HhCrH.320247$GQ4.306084@fx02.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>> On 2020-11-13 15:20, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <0VyrH.145047$Ml5.103301@fx24.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-11-12 14:21, nospam wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uOfrH.514768$RY8.72367@fx48.iad>, JF Mezei
>>>>>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asll we know is "unified memory" which is meaningless marketing mumble
>>>>>>> jumble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>> It is marketing speak to a degree.  Per a Wikipedia article[1] the SOC
>>>>> uses 3733 MHz LPDDR4X spec'd SDRAM as an included component within the
>>>>> SOC.  Still needs a memory manager though that may be more deeply
>>>>> integrated in the CPU; likely has DMA of some kind, esp. for the GPU,
>>>>> but other I/O as well.
>>>>
>>>>> [1] that source has no reference so I declare escape clause.  But it's a
>>>>> good bet if someone has seen that in System Info declared as such on the
>>>>> many, many developer systems out there.
>>>>
>>>> What many many developer systems out there?
>> 
>>> Thousands...
>> 
>> Nonsense.

> Really.  Even my lowly Pascal compiler developer got one and very 
> quickly.  It was underwhelming in the sense that the new compiler was 
> tested and ready in mere days.

Again, the DTK Is NOT the M1 mac. At all. 

> Simplest path: spec an existing type that is in the fabs capability and 
> meets the spec.

Are you channeling JF?


-- 
> I miss the old days. I haven't killed anyone in years.
>
That's sad.

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