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| Subject | Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc |
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
| Message-ID | <gffrH.299239$mK4.212151@fx03.iad> (permalink) |
| Date | 2020-11-12 13:34 -0500 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2020-11-11 20:15, nospam wrote: > In article <VU%qH.433945$r25.305379@fx08.iad>, JF Mezei > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> The 16GB config max for the Air is laughable. > > it's a completely different architecture, therefore direct comparisons > are bogus. > > ipads and iphones do exceptionally well with 4 gig. In the keynote, Apple bragged about 8k video rendering on the MacBook Air. A different architcture may change the size of executable code in RAM, but it doesn't change buffer sizes when you render videos. ARM being RISC, it should in fact require more instructions to do the same work as CISC 8086. Also, binaries from 64 bit platforms are larger since the fields in each opcode are larger. Going from CISC 32 bit VAX to 64 bit RISC Alpha resulted in substally larger binaries, and the need to tune the system very differently as it required far more memory for the shareable images (dynamic library). which were bigger. OS-X is already 64 bits so moving to 64 bit ARM won't change much, but going from cisc to RISC does. The iPhone has typically required less RAM than Android because it is more efficient and compact. But both are on the same platform (ARM). To say that moving from 8086 to ARM will require less memory is not logica.
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