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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:13:28 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/17, 3:58 PM, in article op.yzdl4anmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I would be surprised if people asked the last... somewhat surprised by the
>>>>> second... and not at all with the first.:)
>>>>
>>>> The last is solved by "disk light" - an extension for Mac OS.  Anybody even
>>>> mildly technical wanted it.  It's the only way to tell if the machine has
>>>> crashed or is busy.
>>>
>>> Crashed or is busy? OK, Macs have horrid disk access speeds (those with hard
>>> drives) but they crash only very rarely.
>>
>> They crash exactly as often as PCs.
>
> Both crash rarely but, as is your norm, you have no support for your claim
> of them being exactly the same.

My experience shows they crash at the same rate.

>>> But, sure, I have played with disk light or things similar to it years ago...
>>> never found the need. Not used it in years.
>>
>> When the mac is unresponsive, it's handy to know if it's hung up or it's
>> waiting for the disk.
>
> Use the Mac on a desk. Don't hang it. And if you want a disk monitor get
> one. Heck, use the built in one. Whatever.

What's wrong with an LED?  Why did Apple choose not to include one?

>>>> Why are you surprised at wanting a reset button?  If the machine is very
>>>> stuck and won't respond to any key or mouse input, why turn it off and back
>>>> on when you can press one button?
>>>>
>>> Most people would never think to ask for one and there is rarely if ever a
>>> need for it. How often does your computer not respond?
>>>
>> Mac or PC, probably once a month nowadays.  But macs didn't have reset buttons
>> back in the days of weekly crashes.
>
> So you find you have to reset your computer once a month. Me, well, maybe
> once a year but I have a Mac.

Depends what you do with it.  Mine is worked 100% 24/7.

> And then I use the reset button to reset it.

They don't have those.

>>> And even the fan in my room has the press-and-hold to reset option. Not
>>> really surprising to most.
>>
>> Press and hold the power button, then turn it back on.  Why not just reset the
>> computer?
>
> I cannot reset it instead of resetting it... they are the same.

What?

>> One click instead of a 4 second click, a pause, then another one.
>> Mac users are constantly telling PC users they need less button pushes....
>
> Who is?

Mac users, I just told you.

> And once a year or less when you need to reset you have to press the
> reset button for a few seconds. The horror.

I press mine for a fraction of a second.

>>>>>>>> Some weird folk seem to like the Mac OS, but they want decent hardware
>>>>>>>> at a decent price.  I've built a number of high end PCs to run Mac OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tend to use Macs. Right now Apple is insanely out of date with updating
>>>>>>> most of their hardware, but when you compare what you get compared to
>>>>>>> other OEMs they are in the ballpark (though you cannot opt OUT of getting
>>>>>>> something you do not want, say a built in camera). I personally like the
>>>>>>> OS and the programs that run on it for a lot of things but as with all
>>>>>>> systems it has pros and cons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I bet you still have to pay more for out of date hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't know the current price comparisons, but in the past Apple has rated
>>>>> well FOR WHAT YOU GET. Does not mean you can get an inexpensive Mac.
>>>>>
>>>> Nope.  Every time I've compared like for like power, the macs have been
>>>> about double the price.
>>>
>>> Here are the OLD comparisons I have logged... and I included every single
>>> one people pointed me to (have the requirements on the very ugly page):
>>>
>>>     <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
>>>
>>> Stopped tracking it after that as formally, but still keep a eye out for
>>> such articles. The trend seems about the same.
>>>
>>>> I even know someone who loved macs and hated windows, but
>>>> converted to windows solely because of Apple's over inflated prices.
>>>
>>> You can get a PC a *lot* cheaper than a Mac. I know people who have moved to
>>> windows for the same reason.
>>
>> And yet you're arguing the other way recently....
>
> In a way you cannot quote, sure.

You forgot what you just wrote?

> But here is the thing: when you make include your fantasizes of what I said it makes your stories not very
> believable.

That is the worst English I've ever seen.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 23:58 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 16:13 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 01:00 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 17:22 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 11:40 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 10:30 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2017-04-29 01:19 -0400

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