Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.
Date	2017-04-27 16:13 -0700
Message-ID	<D527C928.A2102%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/27/17, 3:58 PM, in article op.yzdl4anmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

>>>> I would be surprised if people asked the last... somewhat surprised by the
>>>> second... and not at all with the first.:)
>>> 
>>> The last is solved by "disk light" - an extension for Mac OS.  Anybody even
>>> mildly technical wanted it.  It's the only way to tell if the machine has
>>> crashed or is busy.
>> 
>> Crashed or is busy? OK, Macs have horrid disk access speeds (those with hard
>> drives) but they crash only very rarely.
> 
> They crash exactly as often as PCs.

Both crash rarely but, as is your norm, you have no support for your claim
of them being exactly the same.

>> But, sure, I have played with disk light or things similar to it years ago...
>> never found the need. Not used it in years.
> 
> When the mac is unresponsive, it's handy to know if it's hung up or it's
> waiting for the disk.

Use the Mac on a desk. Don't hang it. And if you want a disk monitor get
one. Heck, use the built in one. Whatever.

>>> Why are you surprised at wanting a reset button?  If the machine is very
>>> stuck and won't respond to any key or mouse input, why turn it off and back
>>> on when you can press one button?
>>> 
>> Most people would never think to ask for one and there is rarely if ever a
>> need for it. How often does your computer not respond?
>> 
> Mac or PC, probably once a month nowadays.  But macs didn't have reset buttons
> back in the days of weekly crashes.

So you find you have to reset your computer once a month. Me, well, maybe
once a year but I have a Mac. And then I use the reset button to reset it.

>> And even the fan in my room has the press-and-hold to reset option. Not
>> really surprising to most.
> 
> Press and hold the power button, then turn it back on.  Why not just reset the
> computer? 

I cannot reset it instead of resetting it... they are the same.

> One click instead of a 4 second click, a pause, then another one.
> Mac users are constantly telling PC users they need less button pushes....

Who is? And once a year or less when you need to reset you have to press the
reset button for a few seconds. The horror.
 
>>>>>>> Some weird folk seem to like the Mac OS, but they want decent hardware
>>>>>>> at a decent price.  I've built a number of high end PCs to run Mac OS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tend to use Macs. Right now Apple is insanely out of date with updating
>>>>>> most of their hardware, but when you compare what you get compared to
>>>>>> other OEMs they are in the ballpark (though you cannot opt OUT of getting
>>>>>> something you do not want, say a built in camera). I personally like the
>>>>>> OS and the programs that run on it for a lot of things but as with all
>>>>>> systems it has pros and cons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> And I bet you still have to pay more for out of date hardware.
>>>>> 
>>>> Don't know the current price comparisons, but in the past Apple has rated
>>>> well FOR WHAT YOU GET. Does not mean you can get an inexpensive Mac.
>>>> 
>>> Nope.  Every time I've compared like for like power, the macs have been
>>> about double the price.
>> 
>> Here are the OLD comparisons I have logged... and I included every single
>> one people pointed me to (have the requirements on the very ugly page):
>> 
>>     <http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/prices>
>> 
>> Stopped tracking it after that as formally, but still keep a eye out for
>> such articles. The trend seems about the same.
>> 
>>> I even know someone who loved macs and hated windows, but
>>> converted to windows solely because of Apple's over inflated prices.
>> 
>> You can get a PC a *lot* cheaper than a Mac. I know people who have moved to
>> windows for the same reason.
> 
> And yet you're arguing the other way recently....

In a way you cannot quote, sure. But here is the thing: when you make
include your fantasizes of what I said it makes your stories not very
believable.


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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-27 23:58 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 16:13 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 01:00 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 17:22 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-28 11:40 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-28 10:30 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2017-04-29 01:19 -0400

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