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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 03:26:23 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/16/17, 5:38 PM, in article op.yytddpjmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 23:58:01 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/16/17, 3:16 PM, in article op.yys6s4g1js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> It split into two.  There's a browser based on Chrome, and a
>>>>>> newsreader/mail
>>>>>> client called "M2" which used to be part of the browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Playing with it now... does not seem to let me select text and respond to
>>>>> just that... have to hit reply and then delete what I do not want,
>>>>
>>>> It will do that fine (in the windows version anyway).  I highlight any text,
>>>> then press reply.  Only that text is quoted, the rest disappears.
>>>
>>> Might be a setting somewhere?
>>
>> I've never set it to do that, it did it out of the box.  It's possible they
>> fucked it up on the Mac version.
>
> Quit and re-launched and it was fine. Cannot replicate the broken behavior.
> Call it a bizarre quirk I ran into... if I do not see it again it is a
> non-issue (though still odd it was happening).

It's a buggy bit of software, and they aren't putting much effort into the mail/news program since it split from the browser.

>>>>> and even then have to be very careful to select the front of a line.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you mean there.
>>>
>>> Say I am selecting the start of line 10... if I am too far to the left it
>>> selects from the very top of the post. Have to position my mouse very
>>> carefully before the text.
>>
>> That's a known bug that's pissed off many people.  I often find myself
>> clicking below all the text to type at the bottom, only to find the cursor's
>> at the top.  The text editing function is apparently taken from something
>> else, and they never fixed it.
>
> It is pretty bad -- might be a deal breaker. If the rest is great, though, I
> can live with it. The not having colored text in replies is pretty annoying
> for me, too, though.

Opera's the only newsreader I've ever known to use coloured text anywhere!

> Still, the better filtering, etc. is appealing.

Agreed.  Forte Agent had a lot of filters, but you needed to be a programmer to understand them.  I don't think it would filter on stuff in the body though, which is very useful.

> Also do not like how you add and remove buttons, but how often do you have
> to do that?

Worked for me.

> Would like to make list text smaller and did not see that in the
> font options but that is pretty minor.

Never tried that.  Seems the perfect size for me.  I assume you're referring to the list of folders/newsgroups.etc?

>>>>> Also does not
>>>>> let me open the saved searches in their own windows, but I can live without
>>>>> that (seems fast enough at going back and forth).
>>>>
>>>> Dunno what you mean by "saved searches".
>>>
>>> Do a search and click "save" -- I have a lot of these, with rules such as
>>> contains word Snit, is unread, is not from Snit, is not in such-and-such
>>> threads, etc.
>>>
>>> But Opera handles this reasonably well. I like to be able to have them in
>>> their own floating windows which it does not allow (that I saw) but hardly a
>>> deal-breaker. It does show a count of messages in the search. That is fine.
>>
>> I do a similar thing using labels.  It's how I look at all replies to me.  I
>> only search when I'm looking at something in the past I remember sending a
>> week ago and want to find the thread.  I have no need to save it.
>
> With the saved searched they get placed with the labels... maybe they call
> them that? But you do a search and hit "save" as one way to get them. :)

Sounds confusing to me.  I create a label manually and type in the rules to define it.  A search isn't specific enough.

>>>> For example I've set up a folder which contains all posts made in reply to
>>>> me or thereafter.  I can respond to those first before looking elsewhere.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like a saved search. And it allows for looking at headers my current
>>> one does not. That would be a BIG advantage to what I have.
>>
>> I created a label called "replies to me" with:
>>
>> entire message contains red.lan
>> or entire message contains James Wilkinson
>> and from header does not contain James Wilkinson
>>
>> I.e. anything quoting me that isn't written by me, plus people who don't quote
>> my name but the reference header contains my message ID, which always has
>> red.lan in it.
>
> Makes sense. Others have actually tracking of the thread, but what you
> describe would work well, too.

Opera can mark threads to watch or ignore, but I don't think it can use them to spot replies to yourself.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-16 23:16 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-16 15:58 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-17 01:38 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-16 19:26 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 17:50 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 10:02 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:05 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:14 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:27 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:38 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:47 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:57 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:06 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:13 -0700

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