Path: csiph.com!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.alt.net From: "James Wilkinson Sword" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech Subject: Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:50:44 +0100 Organization: ~ Lines: 111 Message-ID: References: <4FwEA.88503$Fv2.19955@fx02.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:410776 sci.physics:630234 alt.privacy.anon-server:59125 comp.sys.mac.system:105096 alt.comp.os.windows-10:40512 alt.cellular-phone-tech:1345 On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 03:26:23 +0100, Snit wrote: > On 4/16/17, 5:38 PM, in article op.yytddpjmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 23:58:01 +0100, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 4/16/17, 3:16 PM, in article op.yys6s4g1js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson >>> Sword" wrote: >>> >>> ... >>>>>> It split into two. There's a browser based on Chrome, and a >>>>>> newsreader/mail >>>>>> client called "M2" which used to be part of the browser. >>>>> >>>>> Playing with it now... does not seem to let me select text and respond to >>>>> just that... have to hit reply and then delete what I do not want, >>>> >>>> It will do that fine (in the windows version anyway). I highlight any text, >>>> then press reply. Only that text is quoted, the rest disappears. >>> >>> Might be a setting somewhere? >> >> I've never set it to do that, it did it out of the box. It's possible they >> fucked it up on the Mac version. > > Quit and re-launched and it was fine. Cannot replicate the broken behavior. > Call it a bizarre quirk I ran into... if I do not see it again it is a > non-issue (though still odd it was happening). It's a buggy bit of software, and they aren't putting much effort into the mail/news program since it split from the browser. >>>>> and even then have to be very careful to select the front of a line. >>>> >>>> Not sure what you mean there. >>> >>> Say I am selecting the start of line 10... if I am too far to the left it >>> selects from the very top of the post. Have to position my mouse very >>> carefully before the text. >> >> That's a known bug that's pissed off many people. I often find myself >> clicking below all the text to type at the bottom, only to find the cursor's >> at the top. The text editing function is apparently taken from something >> else, and they never fixed it. > > It is pretty bad -- might be a deal breaker. If the rest is great, though, I > can live with it. The not having colored text in replies is pretty annoying > for me, too, though. Opera's the only newsreader I've ever known to use coloured text anywhere! > Still, the better filtering, etc. is appealing. Agreed. Forte Agent had a lot of filters, but you needed to be a programmer to understand them. I don't think it would filter on stuff in the body though, which is very useful. > Also do not like how you add and remove buttons, but how often do you have > to do that? Worked for me. > Would like to make list text smaller and did not see that in the > font options but that is pretty minor. Never tried that. Seems the perfect size for me. I assume you're referring to the list of folders/newsgroups.etc? >>>>> Also does not >>>>> let me open the saved searches in their own windows, but I can live without >>>>> that (seems fast enough at going back and forth). >>>> >>>> Dunno what you mean by "saved searches". >>> >>> Do a search and click "save" -- I have a lot of these, with rules such as >>> contains word Snit, is unread, is not from Snit, is not in such-and-such >>> threads, etc. >>> >>> But Opera handles this reasonably well. I like to be able to have them in >>> their own floating windows which it does not allow (that I saw) but hardly a >>> deal-breaker. It does show a count of messages in the search. That is fine. >> >> I do a similar thing using labels. It's how I look at all replies to me. I >> only search when I'm looking at something in the past I remember sending a >> week ago and want to find the thread. I have no need to save it. > > With the saved searched they get placed with the labels... maybe they call > them that? But you do a search and hit "save" as one way to get them. :) Sounds confusing to me. I create a label manually and type in the rules to define it. A search isn't specific enough. >>>> For example I've set up a folder which contains all posts made in reply to >>>> me or thereafter. I can respond to those first before looking elsewhere. >>>> >>> Sounds like a saved search. And it allows for looking at headers my current >>> one does not. That would be a BIG advantage to what I have. >> >> I created a label called "replies to me" with: >> >> entire message contains red.lan >> or entire message contains James Wilkinson >> and from header does not contain James Wilkinson >> >> I.e. anything quoting me that isn't written by me, plus people who don't quote >> my name but the reference header contains my message ID, which always has >> red.lan in it. > > Makes sense. Others have actually tracking of the thread, but what you > describe would work well, too. Opera can mark threads to watch or ignore, but I don't think it can use them to spot replies to yourself. -- You may be a cunning linguist, but I am a master debater.