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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 4/23/17, 9:50 AM, in article op.yy5qeu1bjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

...
>>> I've never set it to do that, it did it out of the box.  It's possible they
>>> fucked it up on the Mac version.
>> 
>> Quit and re-launched and it was fine. Cannot replicate the broken behavior.
>> Call it a bizarre quirk I ran into... if I do not see it again it is a
>> non-issue (though still odd it was happening).
> 
> It's a buggy bit of software, and they aren't putting much effort into the
> mail/news program since it split from the browser.

Fair enough.

>>>>>> and even then have to be very careful to select the front of a line.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure what you mean there.
>>>> 
>>>> Say I am selecting the start of line 10... if I am too far to the left it
>>>> selects from the very top of the post. Have to position my mouse very
>>>> carefully before the text.
>>> 
>>> That's a known bug that's pissed off many people.  I often find myself
>>> clicking below all the text to type at the bottom, only to find the cursor's
>>> at the top.  The text editing function is apparently taken from something
>>> else, and they never fixed it.
>> 
>> It is pretty bad -- might be a deal breaker. If the rest is great, though, I
>> can live with it. The not having colored text in replies is pretty annoying
>> for me, too, though.
> 
> Opera's the only newsreader I've ever known to use coloured text anywhere!

I think Thunderbird does and I have seen others. Even my ancient horrid ones
does.

>> Still, the better filtering, etc. is appealing.
> 
> Agreed.  Forte Agent had a lot of filters, but you needed to be a programmer
> to understand them.  I don't think it would filter on stuff in the body
> though, which is very useful.

Yes. For me that is a must.
 
>> Also do not like how you add and remove buttons, but how often do you have
>> to do that?
> 
> Worked for me.

Right... it works but is not done well. But, again, once you set it up not a
big deal.
 
>> Would like to make list text smaller and did not see that in the
>> font options but that is pretty minor.
> 
> Never tried that.  Seems the perfect size for me.  I assume you're referring
> to the list of folders/newsgroups.etc?

The list of posts. Again, not a big deal.

...
>>> I do a similar thing using labels.  It's how I look at all replies to me.  I
>>> only search when I'm looking at something in the past I remember sending a
>>> week ago and want to find the thread.  I have no need to save it.
>> 
>> With the saved searched they get placed with the labels... maybe they call
>> them that? But you do a search and hit "save" as one way to get them. :)
> 
> Sounds confusing to me.  I create a label manually and type in the rules to
> define it.  A search isn't specific enough.

Same idea just different ways to get there. And what it has is reasonably
good.

I later ran into it not setting posts to be shown as read even when set to
do so after 1 second. Will play with that more later.
 
>>>>> For example I've set up a folder which contains all posts made in reply to
>>>>> me or thereafter.  I can respond to those first before looking elsewhere.
>>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like a saved search. And it allows for looking at headers my current
>>>> one does not. That would be a BIG advantage to what I have.
>>> 
>>> I created a label called "replies to me" with:
>>> 
>>> entire message contains red.lan
>>> or entire message contains James Wilkinson
>>> and from header does not contain James Wilkinson
>>> 
>>> I.e. anything quoting me that isn't written by me, plus people who don't
>>> quote
>>> my name but the reference header contains my message ID, which always has
>>> red.lan in it.
>> 
>> Makes sense. Others have actually tracking of the thread, but what you
>> describe would work well, too.
> 
> Opera can mark threads to watch or ignore, but I don't think it can use them
> to spot replies to yourself.

Thanks.

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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