Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!

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On 24/08/2024 16:50, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2024 at 2:15:34 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <litmlmFajmaU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who has told you that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>>>> ASC forums.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>>>>> OK. This is all so weird.
>>>>
>>>> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
>>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
>>>
>>> I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
>>> was OK.
>>
>> Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
>>>>
>>>> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
>>>
>>> I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
>>> for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
>>
>> THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
> 
> As have you. You describe yourself as asking about apps and developers in a
> way that implies nefarious intentions. Then you are surprised when people
> respond.

I have no idea what you are referring to! Am I simply forgetting? Please 
help.

Can you cite a reference for your claim?

>> That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
>> folk there don't like that.
>> SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
>>
>> Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
>> here in my Usenet group?
>>
>> Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)
> 
>

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